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   Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn@floss.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:29:13 JST Bradley M. Kuhn

   I think some misread my first post in this thread.
   I meant: while it took me a while to learn the platform, UX is smooth (on all clients I have tried, in fact) that my only complaint is “DM is ‘private mention’” thing.
   I'm old school & still believe in the pithy adage: “if software was hard to write, it should be hard to use”, so having just one complaint for a large system like this seems like I live in a fantasy land…except the non-meta content then reminds me I live in a hellscape of course😬

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     Stefano Zacchiroli (zacchiro@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:31:19 JST Stefano Zacchiroli

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     @bkuhn Oh no! (as in: "oh yes"!). Should I feel responsible for this, due to a certain FOSDEM 2025 dinner conversation about Mastodon, UX, engagement, etc.?

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     Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn@floss.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:31:20 JST Bradley M. Kuhn

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     • Richard Fontana

     I like that all I have to do is mention a few obscure bits of lore and can cause
     @richardfontana to go off and research primary sources just to prove me wrong.

     This dynamic convinces me it's time to bring back the Fontana/Kuhn debates to a micro blogging platform near you

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     Richard Fontana (richardfontana@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:31:21 JST Richard Fontana

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     @bkuhn Gandalf told Frodo about the other rings, the first time in a conversation that Sam famously eavesdropped on. But at that time Gollum presumably wasn't nearby (he doesn't seem to have been in proximity to Frodo and Sam until they get to Moria). It's possible he picked info on this from them or others at later times, but it seems a little unlikely to me. Maybe lore about the Rings of Power was more widely known?Regarding Second Breakfast though, that makes me think of coffee ∀ 😀

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     Richard Fontana (richardfontana@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:31:21 JST Richard Fontana

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     @bkuhn Just skimmed "The Shadow of the Past" chapter. Gandalf seems to imply that knowledge about the Rings of Power at that point was pretty much limited to 'the Wise' (him, Saruman, and the more clued-in Elves, basically)

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     Richard Fontana (richardfontana@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:31:22 JST Richard Fontana

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     • Michael Downey 🧢

     @bkuhn @downey in fairness to Gollum I don't think he was aware of the existence of the other Rings of Power

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     Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn@floss.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:31:22 JST Bradley M. Kuhn

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     Fascinating. I lack Steven Coblert's Tolkien lore recall, but had this head-canon: since Gollum spied on Frodo & Sam so long, Gollum knew everything they did.

     OTOH I don't remember if Gandalf told Frodo about the other rings😬

     I see now my unforced error was bringing up Gollum at all, as it exposed I score poorly on Tolkien portion of Nerd Credibility test.

     But I got a good joke:As a frequent #OpenSource event-goer, I am annoyed most event organizers don't seem to know about Second Breakfast.

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     Bradley M. Kuhn (bkuhn@floss.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:31:23 JST Bradley M. Kuhn

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     • Michael Downey 🧢

     @downey wow, that bug ticket thread re: “private mention” actually *is* in my beloved tradition of “hard to write, then it's hard to use”.
     Seems developers have a data model of microblogging & they abstract DM into that data model b/c it has that neat & clean OO feeling you get when every subclass roots (& routes!😁) back to the One True Base Class.
     It's mildly comforting to know every generation of programmers wants One Ring to Rule Them All…💍
     …But remember how that worked out for Gollum, folks!

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     Michael Downey 🧢 (downey@floss.social)'s status on Monday, 24-Mar-2025 01:31:25 JST Michael Downey 🧢

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     @bkuhn The whole DM/Private-Mention/Mentioned-Only stuff has been an ongoing struggle for the devs, years in the making.

     https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/24837

     #MastoAdmin