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   Miaourt ✨ (miaourt@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 15-Mar-2025 07:36:28 JST Miaourt ✨

   Hot take: stop falling for Protonmail and Tutanota's lies about the existence of “safe e-mails”.

   Encrypting the payload of the email isn't worth it, most surveillance programs doesn't need to see it anyway to draw conclusions, since metadatas are always in plaintext.
   (For example: if you receive mail from your doctor, and then you send an email to some cancer scan institute, I pretty much can guess what happened without the content)

   They also can be compromised very easily, since you rely on the webmail/app, what prevent them to middle-man the pgp-encrypted mail you received ? You're safer with a trusted browser extension / mail client encrypting the payload yourself...

   In addition, Protonmail is lock-in: they don't offer any auto-forwarding ability, voluntary remove Sieve Filter's ability to forward email.
   I don't know for Tutanota, I hope they play nicer.

   Weh, sorry, saw an ad again for them needed to vent (and I'm locked on proton it's frustrating)

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     💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷 (rasp@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 15-Mar-2025 07:36:26 JST 💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷

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     @Miaourt So whats a better alternative?

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     Miaourt ✨ (miaourt@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 15-Mar-2025 07:57:07 JST Miaourt ✨

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     • 💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷

     @Rasp don't use emails for confidential stuff, and warn friends about it.
     And be weary of false promises.

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     💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷 (rasp@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 15-Mar-2025 07:57:41 JST 💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷

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     @Miaourt I meant just what should we use for general email stuff?

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     Miaourt ✨ (miaourt@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 15-Mar-2025 08:02:22 JST Miaourt ✨

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     • 💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷

     @Rasp as if I know, as I said in the first post I'm still on proton ? I mean, its free and it work-ish.
     But I don't trust them for the reasons above.
     I still hope they are better than google in other aspects.

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     💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷 (rasp@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 15-Mar-2025 08:10:14 JST 💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷

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     @Miaourt it'd be nice if they didn't sell data

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     Miaourt ✨ (miaourt@raru.re)'s status on Saturday, 15-Mar-2025 08:20:11 JST Miaourt ✨

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     • 💜 AdoraBeryl 🩷

     @Rasp I believe they don't, their subscription should be enough to keep them afloat.

     But, well, capitalism is rarely about being sustainable, in the long run most for-profit org sink in their cash