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   ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 23:37:55 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?
   The Anti-Federalists were correct that the judiciary had to be a strictly defined and emphatically weaker thing then the Presidency and the Legislative houses, to prevent corruption by judges who would make themselves tyrants who would change America as they saw fit. The Anti-Federalists only wanted federal judges to interpret the law and handle appeals from the states and nothing more, and even then interpretation had to be defined. The Federalists shooed away these concerns and criticism and assured everyone that the law as was in 1780's prevented the American judiciary from growing too much power. Marbury v. Madison essentially and immediately destroyed that Federalist illusion as John Marshall made the federal judiciary equal to Congress and the President through "judicial review".
   
   Many, many decades later, the judicial system has been putting itself higher in federal hierarchy than the presidency, just as they put themselves higher than Congress and the states in the late 19th and 20th centuries. How in Heaven and Hell are the federal judges enforcing these rulings, if they always act higher than those who are meant execute the law and and functions of the federal government? Is Trump just lying down as a lame duck? Is he afraid of some group of the military or police that will be more faithful to the judges than him? You only have to tell these judges to fuck off and learn their place. If they don't like being told they were always meant to be weaker than the President and Congress, tell Congress to impeach and attempt conviction again or make some amendment to the Constitution.
   
   America the Founders created is long dead. God damn the New America. God save Dixie.
   
   Article for the incident in context:
   https://www.yahoo.com/news/federal-judge-rips-doj-lawyers-174543366.html
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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 23:44:26 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     I think everyone is missing a major fact regarding judicial review, and that's that it wasn't created by Marbury v. Madison. It originates in Chisholm v. Georgia.
     
     Marbury is really case about whether a Supreme Court Justice must recuse himself when he was the cause of the dispute. Look up who failed to deliver the commission Marbury was demanding. 😏
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     ?uper?nekFriend ? (supersnekfriend@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 23:44:27 JST ?uper?nekFriend ?

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff
     The judiciary branch does not have power over the decisions of the U.S. military' inner functions. It can handle appeals of military courts of justice and it can handle interpreting Congressional law regarding the military, but it cannot force the President to make or not make decisions regarding how the military is run.
     What you are doing is making these judges hierarchical commanders in chief by judgement over the president, who is explicitly given that role,and not the judges, by the Constitution itself.
     
     If these trannies fags really have a problem with the commander in chief's order regarding tranny soldiers, then they go straight to the Supreme Court to interpret the role of commander in chief according to the Constitution. And if the Supreme justices say, as they should, the president can make such an order, then these tranny soldiers and liberals should go to Congress and attempt an amendment that limits the President's ability to modify the composition of the military enlisted.
     
     If parts of the military enforce this judge's bad, unconstitutional, ahistorical, and immoral order against the president's order and any faithful military officers and soldiers to Trump and Hegseth, then you have created insubordination within the military, which destroys cohesion and can be exploited by our foreign enemies, all over a judicial power that you are imagining exists in the original U.S. Constitution. Your Canadian judiciary may have that power and precedence, but not us.
     
     Again, there is already a mode and method in the Federal government to stop a runaway presidents, and that is called impeachment, not judicial review.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 23:44:27 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     > What you are doing is making these judges hierarchical commanders in chief by judgement over the president
     
     *trump* is who empowered the SCROTUS to be in its current 'above the law' state. And SCROTUS is currently using that to push *trump*'s agenda.
     
     > then they go straight to the Supreme Court to interpret the role of commander in chief according to the Constitution
     
     And the way to get there is by starting at lower courts, and having the appeal process do its thing ie that's what's happening.
     
     > tranny soldiers and liberals should go to Congress and
     
     and this judge is almost certainly enforcing the law set by congress
     otherwise he'll have no case
     
     > Trump and Hegseth, then you have created insubordination within the military,
     
     Your government is openly talking about invading its former allies.
     Your POTUS has is a foreign agent of an enemy state.
     
     Your problem isn't insubordination within the military your problem is at the very top.
     
     > Again, there is already a mode and method in the Federal government to stop a runaway presidents, and that is called impeachment, not judicial review.
     
     That obviously isn't working very well.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 23:44:28 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @SuperSnekFriend The problem with america right now isn't that judges are acting as tyrants, it's that *trump* is. If Hegseth thinks this order is in err he can appeal it. Chances are good this is less about 'retraction a repost' and more about an elected official using his official position to *make* policy