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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 21:45:00 JST 翠星石
   It seems the register is censoring this post, so I'll repost it; https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/13/android_16_linux_term/
   >may get a built-in Linux terminal
   
   Android already comes with the kernel, Linux, thus it's a major error to write about Android "getting Linux".
   
   The only existing "Linux terminal" is the fbcon terminal emulator, but you can't use that without also a getty and a shell (like GNU bash) and I guess it would be good if fbcon was accessible on Android, but this doesn't seem to be the case.
   
   >Instead, this is a special Debian VM
   
   The constant relentless lying to prevent the user from learning that a free software OS exists is incredible.
   
   What is being offered is a GNU chroot (not a VM) and a terminal emulator that allows using GNU Bash to operate a GNU system.
   
   GNU chroots have been available on Android for years, although all of them are somewhat broken and I guess things might be less broken with official support.
   
   >this sounds very similar to the built-in Linux Terminal that's available in ChromeOS
   
   It's incredible the level of lying this website does; https://chromeos.dev/en/productivity/terminal
   
   >and in the “Linux” section, “Turn on” Linux
   
   When in fact you are enabling access to GNU bash.
   
   >Shut down Linux
   
   When in fact that button kills GNU bash.
   
   No wonder why there are so many GNU users who have never heard of GNU (https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-users-never-heard-of-gnu.html) - people who know what Linux is and know what GNU is, are intentionally lying and calling GNU, "Linux", so people never learn of GNU, or assume it is merely a coreutils (when GNU coreutils is only one GNU package; https://www.gnu.org/software/).
   
   >if having a Linux terminal on your Android fondleslab feels sounds like something you'd really want, there is the existing Termux app
   
   Termux offers a terminal emulator, GNU environment, Xorg server and package manager that allows you to install GNU software and other software that works on the GNU system.
   
   >It's open source
   
   The license is GPLv3-only, which is a free software license.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 21:56:48 JST 翠星石

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     @Zergling_man Can't you `su root` in termux just fine? (although you can't conveniently run the installed GNU software anymore as that's no longer on the $PATH).
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 21:56:49 JST Zergling_man

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     @Suiseiseki Despite all that, this is something I might actually want, since root fucks with termux very badly.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 22:25:59 JST 翠星石

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     • Zergling_man
     @Zergling_man Yes - unfortunately Android likes to screw with permissions.
     
     I believe if you copy the file to the termux directory and change the permissions to termux's, they you can use the file.
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     Zergling_man (zergling_man@sacred.harpy.faith)'s status on Thursday, 13-Mar-2025 22:26:00 JST Zergling_man

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     @Suiseiseki There's a wonderful bug that stealing a file from root (say, in /sdcard/Pictures/Screenshots, or on a flashdrive, because for some fucking reason rooting assumes you want that) won't work; even after chown to ua89 or whatever it is, you can't actually open the file, so you can't, for example, scp it to a remote machine.
     You could, I suppose, use scp by invoking its path and manually pointing to your key, assuming that doesn't have permission errors.