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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 22:33:35 JST 翠星石

   • Rusty Crab
   @RustyCrab Don't - it's proprietary software.
   
   Here is non-proprietary Arch; https://www.parabola.nu/
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 22:37:19 JST 翠星石

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     • atma–jnani
     @dick @RustyCrab Arch only offers proprietary versions of Linux by default and its archives contain a lot of proprietary software that isn't adequately marked as proprietary, thus it is extremely easy to install proprietary software without even realizing it.
     
     https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Arch
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     atma–jnani (dick@cawfee.club)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 22:37:20 JST atma–jnani

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     @Suiseiseki @RustyCrab arch is not proprietary it just lets yuou use proprietary things. that doesnt make it proprietary
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 22:54:30 JST 翠星石

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     • Yomiel
     • atma–jnani
     @yomiel @dick @RustyCrab Wi-Fi encapsulates Ethernet.
     
     Linux is only a kernel, thus writing "Linux kernel" is both repeating yourself and implies that Linux is more than a kernel.
     
     You just install a decent Wi-Fi card or plug in a decent usb one and problem solved.
     
     
     GNU Linux-libre doesn't stop you from using proprietary Wi-Fi card software - the user is given the choice to think and decide whether they want to run proprietary peripheral software.
     
     The user has the option to adding the proprietary peripheral software to CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE="...." in their Linux .config, or grabbing the tainted Wi-Fi card driver files and overwriting the patched version with the one containing the proprietary software loading machinery (after sufficient time to think and realize that the manufacturer only has malice against them, most users decide that they want to keep their freedom and get a decent Wi-Fi card instead rather than doing that (of course no such choice can happen if the proprietary software is installed without even asking the user like what Debian does)).
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     Yomiel (yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 22:54:35 JST Yomiel

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     • atma–jnani
     @Suiseiseki @dick @RustyCrab
     Depends if rustycrab is using a Ethernet or not though. The regular Linux kernel is required for WiFicels using proprietary WiFi drivers.
     
     There is also an AUR package for the linux-libre kernel, though it is weird it doesn't ship in the default repos.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 23:02:11 JST 翠星石

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     • atma–jnani
     @yomiel @dick @RustyCrab That sentence was written out of GNU/Love, but you're being hostile?
     
     People know that windows is an OS, thus it would be redundant to write that.
     
     "the NT kernel" naming scheme exists as windows doesn't have a particular name for its kernel and of course repeating such naming scheme where you write "the Linux kernel" instead of "a GNU kernel" or "Linux" furthers the lie that Linux is an OS.
     
     
     If you wish to stress that Linux is only a kernel, the only clear way to write that is; "the kernel, Linux" or "Linux, the kernel".
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     Yomiel (yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 23:02:12 JST Yomiel

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     @Suiseiseki @dick @RustyCrab
     I stopped reading as soon as you said
     >Linux is only a kernel, thus writing "Linux kernel" is both repeating yourself and implies that Linux is more than a kernel.
     
     You can say "The Windows Operating System" and it wouldn't be redundant. You would also say "The NT kernel" as well.
     
     Needlessly hostile retard.
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 23:05:59 JST 翠星石

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     • atma–jnani
     @dick @RustyCrab @yomiel What kind of proprietary retainment mechanism is that?
     
     Too many truth nukes and you can't help but to reflectively mute?
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     atma–jnani (dick@cawfee.club)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 23:06:00 JST atma–jnani

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     • Yomiel
     @Suiseiseki @RustyCrab @yomiel you are annoying and muted
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 23:15:48 JST 翠星石

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     • atma–jnani
     @yomiel @dick @RustyCrab >does not in anyway imply there is an entire NT operating system out there.
     There are multiple OS's codenamed NT, so the implication is correct.
     
     Merely a coreutils and a kernel won't get you a working computer - you need much more software than that (GNU coreutils is only one GNU package).
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     Yomiel (yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 23:15:50 JST Yomiel

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     • atma–jnani
     @Suiseiseki @dick @RustyCrab
     
     Still, no. It's not my fault if somebody else were to misinterpret my statement, it'd be their fault.
     
     Saying "The NT Kernel" does not in anyway imply there is an entire NT operating system out there.
     
     Say, if I said the "Mazda MX-5 Engine" would imply that it is an engine from an MX-5. But, if I said "The Playstation 4 Console" it's not 'redundant', it's describing the item. If it said, "The Playstation 4 CPU" that would be specifying the part of that system, though despite that the Playstation 4 CPU may be agnostic and able to be used on other systems anyway. Perhaps the PS4's CPU could be used in another console down the line, say the Switch 2. Then it would be the Playstation 4 CPU inside the Switch 2.
     
     GNU is not the only thing you can pair with Linux anyway, there is no operating system called Linux, it must always be paired with a set of coreutils, like Plan9, Busybox, or mostly commonly, GNU.
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     Yomiel (yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 09-Mar-2025 23:39:54 JST Yomiel

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     • atma–jnani
     @Suiseiseki @dick @RustyCrab
     
     "I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux."
     
     The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows was compiled with gcc, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even you were correct, you wont be for long."
     
     With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.
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