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   pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 17:43:07 JST pistolero

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   > How large of an attack justifies cloudflare?
   
   I don't think anything does unless you are using something with unobjectionable content (i.e., that Cloudflare won't kick off) and you don't know how to build a CDN.
   
   Cloudfed's main DDoS protection is basically playing three-card monte with BGP and DNS. If you have the kind of problem that that solves (nobody on fedi does; KFcc did but they gave up on running a fedi server), and you don't know how to do it yourself, a company that does that can probably be useful.
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      (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 17:52:29 JST 

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     @p @verita84 >unless you are using something with unobjectionable content (i.e., that Cloudflare won't kick off)
     Cloudflare haven't kicked off sites that host CP and animal torture, a good half of chomo instances are behind it. It's fairly liberal if you aren't an imminent threat to human life (e.g. an edgy gossip forum).
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 18:44:43 JST pistolero

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     > Cloudflare haven't kicked off sites that host CP and animal torture, a good half of chomo instances are behind it.
     
     Objectionable to Cloudflare.
     
     > It's fairly liberal if you aren't an imminent threat to human life (e.g. an edgy gossip forum).
     
     They've so far done KF, Gab, 8chan, DailyStormer; I don't know if there's a list.
     
     Those sites are always the thin end of the wedge. They've been attacked in the press often enough that if they are the target, almost no one questions it, and the mob has the pitchforks ready. Once that happens, it's a matter of time for other services.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 18:52:44 JST pistolero

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     > Sharing in Cloudflares costs by paying for service has to be efficient at some point,
     
     Sharing their costs? They've IPO'd. The price doesn't go *down* if more people want it, it goes *up*.
     
     > as all things go probably best deal at small volumes vs cost of infrastructure.
     
     It depends. Poast was a paying customer and got dropped from their CDN (but not the other services) without warning. If you are small, downtime costs are unpredictable, but it's never zero to have your infrastructure disappear without warning. It was more efficient for graf to build a CDN than to deal with that possibility again.
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     white_male (white_male@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 18:52:45 JST white_male

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     @p @verita84 What about cost efficiency? Sharing in Cloudflares costs by paying for service has to be efficient at some point, as all things go probably best deal at small volumes vs cost of infrastructure.