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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:28:54 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
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Mancow Muller ? (cowanon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:28:50 JST Mancow Muller ?
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:28:50 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
@cowanon @vic
All intel and amd chips are auto backdoored no matter what. Also don't try to emotionally blackmail me like a faggot troon, it's not going to work.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:28:51 JST vic
distro hopping is absolutely a waste of time, and the wayland/x11 thing is really gay, so yeah Linux isn't paradise either
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Mancow Muller ? (cowanon@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:28:52 JST Mancow Muller ?
Isn't modern windows even harder to install than most Linux distros?
...and considering the fact that you can game on Linux just as easily and much faster since Linux doesn't sit there and gobble up all your RAM running a bunch of NSA spyware...
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:28:52 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
@cowanon @vic
> Isn't modern windows even harder to install than most Linux distros?
Nope it's super easy and you can use rufus to trim the install of unwanted features.
> ...are there truly any excuses left to still be using windows?
Yes there is software on windows that is not available on Linux that doesn't have a suitable alternative. Wine only works well with gaming. Linux is ran by insane troons that are constantly reinventing the wheel. Linux distros are a complete waste of time, they will hold back your productivity immensely. -
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:28:53 JST vic
The best analogy I have for modern Windows is that it's like if your local water utility bumped up the fluoride by 100x.
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:32:34 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@charlie_root @cowanon @vic This is why were moving to arm \ risc -v root
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:35:32 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@vic @charlie_root @cowanon >almost certainly have the same backdoors.
No? unless you have something to point out point it out
>RISC-V has gotten enough "industry support" in such a short time that it is highly suspicious as well.
Point me where it is in the schematic
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:35:33 JST vic
the bigger ARM SOCs almost certainly have the same backdoors.
RISC-V has gotten enough "industry support" in such a short time that it is highly suspicious as well.
Truly secure hardware for the masses is not allowed.
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hazlin no plap pirate (hazlin@shortstacksran.ch)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:35:43 JST hazlin no plap pirate
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:38:43 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@charlie_root @cowanon @vic The reality for me is, just emulate shit ware like windoze if if ever need to do something special. Its quite easy. -
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:38:44 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
@dcc @cowanon @vic
This is why I stopped giving a shit and moved on with my life. The NSA spying shit going be gone anyways, all the old guard of the agencies are retiring and or getting purged and the agencies are getting downsized. To be concerned about that is silly at this point, that's just leftover thinking from the Obama era.
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:43:09 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@vic @charlie_root @cowanon >If the backdoor was obvious then it wouldn't be a backdoor. It would be a front door.
You don't understand how this works then :alex_lol: its it was a "backdoor" as in not visible it does not exist becuase its not possible. If there is a black box on the chip then there the possibility of a backdoor. These are products you can put your hands on.
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:43:10 JST vic
If the backdoor was obvious then it wouldn't be a backdoor. It would be a front door.
People found out about Dual_EC_DRBG due to the weird funding associated with it.
I look at trends in these communities, and when people who normally disagree on something suddenly shift to it in lockstep (like we saw with e.g. Arch Linux moving to systemd at the same time as all the other distros) I just assume it's compromised.
Here are the RISC-V members: https://riscv.org/members/
It started as a tiny project to get away from the big players' bloated hardware (and their security problems), yet look how the big players have latched on. Proof? No. But definitely something that should make you wonder.
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Nice Mitch Conner (mitchconner@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:45:11 JST Nice Mitch Conner
I remember people calling him stupid for this quote, but it actually makes a lot of sense to me right now. People are always like, why didn't you ask me to clarify blah blah blah and I'm just like, because I didn't know I needed clarification till now. ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:49:12 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@vic @charlie_root @cowanon Both real back door's like intel me and amd psp are black box's, exploits that hacker can use in cpu's is quite a different idea to what we are talking about. You are conflating security with a true backdoor. -
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:49:13 JST vic
Yeah? And Dual_EC_DRBG was also "open" and viewable by everyone. Did the kinds of people who put that in place just give up after somewhat getting caught? I doubt it.
The people who "contribute" to open source, both software and hardware, are very crafty. Vulnerabilities of that caliber are hidden in plain sight.
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:51:30 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@vic @charlie_root @cowanon If that was true then why are psp and me not? (becuase your p much wrong) :alex_lol: -
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 05:51:31 JST vic
> You are conflating security with a true backdoor.
The best intentional backdoors look like security oversights.
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 06:03:55 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@vic @charlie_root @cowanon >should be suspicious
You can only take what you can get, unless you go some other cpu for me (other than the 10,000 power 9) there is no point to care unless something is truly up. -
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 06:03:56 JST vic
> becuase your p much wrong
My point is simply that you should be suspicious, and anyone acquainted with the security world understands that nothing "secure" can ever be taken at face value, even (and maybe especially) if it's open-source and backed by all the big names. Truly secure hardware for the masses is not allowed.
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 06:11:57 JST vic
That I agree on. I just hate to see people think RISC-V is going to save them from government back doors simply because it's open-source. A false sense of security is worse than knowing (or strongly suspecting) that you're on compromised hardware and acting accordingly.
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 06:12:58 JST Phantasm
@charlie_root @cowanon @vic
>Nope it's super easy and you can use rufus to trim the install of unwanted features.
Unless you know how to pirate enterprise versions of Windows, the unwanted features will return after a random Windows feature update. Debloating Windows is like running up a never ending hill. Same with the completely random Win11 requirements that _can_ be bypassed with simple registry edits, but MS still can remove that bypass/remove the edit (as they recently did). Then there's the forced online account on install that can only be officially bypassed by "buying" the Pro version and joining a domain while having no access to Internet.
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 06:16:12 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@phnt @charlie_root @cowanon @vic Computer like every other "tool" (its not exactly a tool) require understanding and practice. The idea you can do something without either seems to be a new weird belief with computers now. Phantasm likes this. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 06:16:28 JST Phantasm
@vic @charlie_root @dcc @cowanon
>People found out about Dual_EC_DRBG due to the weird funding associated with it.
Ackshualy, cryptoanalysts knew right from the start that it was very suspicious. The funding was revealed only years later in the Snowden leaks and the only lead they originally had was that NIST implied that NSA made the algorithm and specified the P and Q values.✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: likes this. -
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Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 06:30:53 JST Phantasm
@vic @charlie_root @dcc @cowanon
>NIST P-256 curve
The elliptic curve is ackshualy fine. You are likely even using it right now (or the P-384 version) for signature verification (ECDSA), if not, you are using Curve25519 which is usually the only supported widely used alternative. The P and Q values are just points on the curve whose relationship to each other is the problematic part for the DRBG, not the curve. -
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vic (vic@shitpost.cloud)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 06:30:54 JST vic
True. Anyone with half a brain should hear "use these magical numbers because they make it more secure, just do it, you wouldn't understand why but it's better, trust me bro" and be suspicious, just like with the NIST P-256 curve. But the funding was the semi-smoking gun.
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 08:07:23 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@charlie_root @cowanon @vic > on would require a very high end computer esp processing power
No actually you could use a kvm rn and it would be about as responsive -
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 08:07:24 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
@dcc @cowanon @vic
Emulating Windows and running a software stack that is usable and responsive on would require a very high end computer esp processing power, maybe someday. -
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 09:51:02 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@charlie_root @cowanon @vic No? how many cores does your cpu have? (i don't member)
>not to mention the massive amount of time you sink into getting it all setup.
Take like 30 minutes to figure it out, virt-mnager makes it quite easy (also since you have a desktop gpu and igpu its even easier for you) -
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 09:51:03 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
@dcc @cowanon @vic
Come man just stop with this. It 100% would be a sluggish mess with screentearing, not to mention the massive amount of time you sink into getting it all setup. You guys are masochists and not practical. There is a time and place when using Linux makes sense, but its not always the case. -
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Sir Nedwood (ned@noauthority.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 09:54:43 JST Sir Nedwood
@cowanon @charlie_root @vic Are you sure about that?
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 09:56:04 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@charlie_root @cowanon @vic Kvm is one of the most use part of linux and even streamlined. -
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✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 10:52:14 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
@charlie_root @cowanon @vic Have fun with windoze i guess :sulurp: -
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 10:52:15 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
@dcc @cowanon @vic
Sorry buddy, Im not going back to the penguin plantation of mental patients. I can't stand the community, if you're even a millimeter right of Mao they despise you and don't want you. Why would I purposely put myself at a disadvantage?
I want nothing to do with it. Microsoft can get fucked too, I use their shit for free and take full advantage of it. The majority of that nagware is disabled. One Avowed ad in my system notifications is not going make me throw away everything that Ive worked hard for. Im way more mature these days to do something so foolish. -
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 19:12:43 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@charlie_root I used to be really big into photography and image editing. And, for that, Mac used to be the gold standard in the industry for the software available and performance therein. Later, Linux ended up catching up sufficiently that I was able to use software like DarkTable to do all the RAW editing I used to use Mac for (also, the hardware just kept getting better and better across the industry). I don't do much photography these days anymore and am selling or have sold a lot of my equipment. I always hated editing anyway, and now own a little Fujifilm camera where I basically shoot JPEGs exclusively.
But, the point I was getting at, is that for "creatives", as fucking gay as Apple is as a company insofar as what they do with their hardware and operating systems, I would still consider them the "gold standard" for things like multimedia content work: music, or videos, or images, or writing, etc.. If I did not love Linux (and, I do love my Debian setup) and if I did not love having more free and diverse hardware to choose from and/or be able to upgrade and maintain vs. consume, throw away, and replace (the Apple model)……then, it'd be a no-brainer: I'd be using a MacBook Air or MacBook Pro or something right now.
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 19:12:44 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 19:12:45 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@charlie_root But, obviously, if my line of work was more similar to yours and required all the tools you utilize, I would probably just be a Mac user.
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 19:12:46 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@charlie_root Yeah, that sounds terrible. At that point, I totally agree to use Windows or Mac. I still dual-boot between Windows and Linux. I have a 1 TiB SSD and half is Debian 12 and the other half is Windows 10. I use Linux 90% of the time, and only really ever touch the Windows partition for some gaming on Steam (as not all games support Linux yet) and RekordBox. I mostly use RekordBox because I need it to be able to manage my music if I want to export off to USB to run on CDJs + my little DDJ controller isn't supported by Mixxx yet. Between the two environments, though, I highly prefer Linux for overall performance and productivity and usability and simplicity. Windows is always a headache, always updating shit, always cooking the ever-living-fuck out of my smol little X13 ThinkPad. 🤷
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 19:12:47 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
@adiz
I have a HP Pavilion desktop PC. So maybe that's a factor too. I'm not saying Linux was slow, audio software and plugins used more CPU that what they did in Windows due to wine wrappers.
If I just seriously had to use Linux for audio and I would die if I saw a Windows logo, then I probably would just use Reaper, and only plugins that have native Linux versions like Vital. I wouldn't touch wine with a ten foot pole.
Renoise didn't seem too stable for me either, it crashed often, I would be livid if I paid money for that.
I'm not saying that there aren't audio engineers and music producers out there making Linux work, I personally know one person that is. But the lengths he has to go through to get a usable system is mind boggling, the amount of bottles and custom scripts he employs. He says it takes about a month to get it all setup. Maybe a week if you didn't have a job and spent all day on it. -
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 19:12:48 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@charlie_root I don't know about serious audio engineering. So, you're probably right in that regard. I use my computer for general use and web development/systems administration and Linux is so so so wonderful with such less bullshit to have to mess with than Windows.
I've had the complete opposite experience regarding performance from what you're saying. And I use an Intel machine. Windows runs hot and my fans stay on when using it. Linux runs cool and I get markedly improved battery life out of it.
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¢нαяℓιє яσσт (charlie_root@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 19:12:49 JST ¢нαяℓιє яσσт
@adiz
No the L is trying to use Linux for serious audio engineering.
Yeah in theory you could, but you'd be severely limited and at the whims of your wine version. One bad update and ALL of your plugins stop working. That is not acceptable, my VU meter not working on my Shadow Hills Master Class Compressor that I paid for, is unacceptable.
Furthermore, the functionality of my PC was less under Linux. CPU usage was higher for plugins, and the video performance of the Intel media driver is terrible compared to the driver for Windows. I shouldn't have to use picom to stop screen tearing. -
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👺防空識別區👹 (adiz@mtl.jinxian.casa)'s status on Friday, 07-Mar-2025 19:12:50 JST 👺防空識別區👹
@charlie_root Damn. Rare Charlie Root Ls. @cowanon @vic