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    Dgar (dgar@aus.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Mar-2025 14:22:58 JST Dgar Dgar

    Preferential voting is Australia is actually really cool. It lets you list the candidates on your ballot in the order of your preference.

    So you can, for example, have The Pirate Party as number 1, The Greens as number 2, Labor as second last, and LNP as last, with any other candidates in between.

    You are in control of who your vote goes to. The candidates and parties have no say in it at all. Don’t let the media tell you otherwise.

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      Bill Zaumen (bzdev@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 10-Mar-2025 00:01:12 JST Bill Zaumen Bill Zaumen
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      @dgar Unfortunately, preferential voting will occasionally elect the wrong candidate. For an explanation of why, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow's_impossibility_theorem (don't feel bad if this is not obvious - the work resulted in Kenneth Arrow receiving a Nobel prize).

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        Arrow
        An arrow is a fin-stabilized projectile launched by a bow. A typical arrow usually consists of a long, stiff, straight shaft with a weighty (and usually sharp and pointed) arrowhead attached to the front end, multiple fin-like stabilizers called fletchings mounted near the rear, and a slot at the rear end called a nock for engaging the bowstring. A container or bag carrying additional arrows for convenient reloading is called a quiver.The use of bows and arrows by humans predates recorded history and is common to most cultures. A craftsman who makes arrows is a fletcher, and one that makes arrowheads is an arrowsmith. History The oldest evidence of likely arrowheads, dating to c. 64,000 years ago, were found in Sibudu Cave, current South Africa. Likely arrowheads made from animal bones have been discovered in the Fa Hien Cave in Sri Lanka which are also the oldest evidence for the use of arrows outside of Africa dating to c. 48,000 years ago. The oldest evidence of the use of bows to shoot arrows dates to about 10,000 years ago; it is based...
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      Fish of Rage (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Monday, 10-Mar-2025 00:02:49 JST Fish of Rage Fish of Rage
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      • Chad Baker
      @clacke @dgar @calbaker if you have a lot of division on an issue doesn't it make it so that people strongly for one candidate and strongly against one candidate end up canceling each other out and you just elect the person nobody really wants
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      Chad Baker (calbaker@fosstodon.org)'s status on Monday, 10-Mar-2025 00:02:52 JST Chad Baker Chad Baker
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      @dgar

      Is this the same thing as ranked choice voting? It sounds like it is, and if yes, the USA desperately needs this broadly!

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      clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Monday, 10-Mar-2025 00:02:52 JST clacke clacke
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      • Chad Baker

      @calbaker @dgar It is built on the same desire to break up the issues with first-past-the-post and single-seat constituencies.

      There's a lot of details going into a voting system. Single Transferable Vote is made for a proportional appointment of seats, and basically becomes Instant Runoff Voting if there's only one seat.

      I think what US activists mean when they propose Ranked Choice Voting depends on the activist. Some of them are proposing IRV.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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