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   feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 04:45:51 JST feld
   Wait, how does the Social Security database express spousal benefits? Was this taken into consideration?
   
   My dad is dead but his social security is still being paid out to my mom. Because the law was that you can receive theirs if it's higher than your own. But you can't collect your own anymore.
   
   So are these some of the "dead people" that are being paid?
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 04:51:05 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @feld we'll probably never get insight into this.
     
     so whats funny to me is a lot of the way DOGE is doing things is conceptually what I want, they are just fucking it up in practice.
     
     Like, they talk about something and in less than 24 hours they have a spreadsheet of numbers of what they are talking about. There is a single guy that you can ask and he produces an answer, and the answer actually goes into detail.
     
     This actually feels like a responsive and fully modern government office (at least in terms of communication) in a lot of ways.
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     Daniel Taylor (randomdamage@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 04:52:03 JST Daniel Taylor

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     @feld almost certainly

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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 04:52:03 JST feld

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     @RandomDamage This is something the average person probably isn't aware of
     
     In this case someone who is like 150 could still be receiving benefits if it was going to a much younger wife ... much like how the woman was still receiving the Civil War benefits because the super old guy married the young girl in the early 1900s as he wanted her to be financially secure
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 04:54:59 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @feld @RandomDamage this is a better theory than all the other crap theories I have seen thrown around but there were entries for people like 360 years.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 05:00:58 JST feld

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     @sun @RandomDamage Yes some of the extremely high ages are odd but it could be SSNs never recycled for various reasons. They could have reorganized which pools they used for certain geographic areas and some places had major drops in population density so it wouldn't put so much pressure on the pool if the birth rate dropped really low
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     Daniel Taylor (randomdamage@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 05:03:38 JST Daniel Taylor

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     @feld @sun@shitposter.world or they could even have records of previous SSN number assignees still in the DB, with a different (non-SSN) number as a record key

     I would not trust Musk's posse to know or care about such subtleties

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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 05:05:09 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @feld @RandomDamage yeah I am willing to entertain your theory in combination with other various mistakes in the data as sufficient explanatory power for what we see. thanks.
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 05:10:22 JST feld

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     @sun @RandomDamage there's definitely fraud. But it's not gonna be widespread. Like maybe a couple hundred people in the whole country. A very small margin of error. I don't believe any system like this can be 100% fraud proof
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 05:14:19 JST feld

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     @sun seriously how have none of the Twitter bros feverishly bantering about SS fraud never once mention how the spousal benefits work
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 05:15:20 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @feld they are all 23 years old
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     Pissed Hippo (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 23-Feb-2025 05:17:31 JST Pissed Hippo

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     @feld isn't the better question is why not musk