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    Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 23:34:12 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
    • Ars Technica

    When writing about pretty much any kind of attacks, we tend to recognize that while people with certain skills were certainly involved, that is not their defining characteristic.

    Would @arstechnica write a headline featuring "Russia-aligned driver groups"? 🤔

    No, that would obviously sound ridiculous. "Russia-aligned mercenary groups" makes way more sense. Even though most of them likely can and do drive.

    And yet over and over again: "Russia-aligned hackers". 🙄

    https://mastodon.social/@arstechnica/114032647463343969

    In conversation about 4 months ago from mstdn.social permalink
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      Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 23:34:11 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
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      • Ars Technica

      "Russia-aligned cyber-criminal groups"

      "Russia-aligned malicious actors"

      "Russia-aligned cyber-espionage groups"

      "Russia-aligned cyber-warfare groups"

      All of these are better, more clear, and more relevant to the actual attack that is being reported on.

      All of these also avoid implying responsibility of some nebulous hackers and harmfully stereotyping a global creative community.

      And it took me a few seconds to come up with these.

      Come on, @arstechnica , you can do better.

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      Alfred M. Szmidt repeated this.
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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 23:37:45 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      @rysiek @arstechnica

      I think it’s fair game to mention the •political• alignment of an attacker, if in fact they have one. I’m not sure whether that’s a fair judgement in this case — nationality is not the same as political alignment — but it is in principle a reasonable practice.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 23:41:10 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      @rysiek
      Ah, I see. What noun should go there?

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 23:41:12 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
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      • Paul Cantrell

      @inthehands I am not complaining about the "Russia-aligned", I am complaining about the "hackers" bit. I thought the example I gave was pretty clear.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 23:48:42 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
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      This matters a lot, because – as the NEWAG DRMed trains thing in Poland clearly shows – stereotyping hackers as some nebulous cyber-criminals enables companies that do something shady to just shout "oh, hackers!" when researchers call them out on that.

      And it works! It's a strategy that is being used consciously and with purpose by NEWAG, and has been used in the past by other huge companies who wanted to deflect criticism related to their own cyber-shenanigans.

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      Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 23:50:11 JST Paul Cantrell Paul Cantrell
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      @rysiek
      Ah, I missed that! Yes, I think you have a point.

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      Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Thursday, 20-Feb-2025 23:50:12 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
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      • Paul Cantrell

      @inthehands literally next message in the thread.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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