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   Lesley Carhart :unverified: (hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 15-Feb-2025 01:26:46 JST Lesley Carhart :unverified:

   I yell because of despair, because I’m booked out for mentees and seeing so many very scared job hunters who got promised the moon by skeevy universities and boot camps. Cybersecurity is a great job but you have to be proactive!

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     Martin Seeger (masek@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 15-Feb-2025 01:26:45 JST Martin Seeger

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     @hacks4pancakes We see that every time a hype cycle ends. I still remember a time when being able to write HTML was an in-demand property 😀.

     P.S. Everyone starting a degree related to #ai now: that will also be your fate.

     Rich Felker repeated this.
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     Lesley Carhart :unverified: (hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 15-Feb-2025 01:26:45 JST Lesley Carhart :unverified:

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     • Martin Seeger

     @masek the world needs plumbers and janitors. Literally and figuratively. The jobs that will stay in demand in IT and cyber are less flashy and more practical.

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     Eleanor Saitta (dymaxion@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 15-Feb-2025 22:30:49 JST Eleanor Saitta

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     @hacks4pancakes
     I struggle with this *because* the industry has changed so much. My way in is unrecognizable today, and I genuinely don't understand a lot of the traps that junior folks are dealing with because I've never seen them. I worry about steering folks the wrong way.

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     Lesley Carhart :unverified: (hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange)'s status on Saturday, 15-Feb-2025 22:30:50 JST Lesley Carhart :unverified:

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     One final plea to senior folks to please mentor at least one young person in a structured, formal way. Please, don’t pull the ladder up behind us.

     Rich Felker repeated this.