@autolycus In case with these Macs there would be no Intel engineer and no driver from original hardware maker! It would always remain a best effort implementation from someone who might abandon the project sooner or later: people burn out, people can simply change hobbies — this isn't something new, this is happening all the time. They have no obligations to support your hardware. People should stop fooling themselves into thinking that this works. @phoronix
@m0xee@autolycus@phoronix This is the current issuse with arm being the second isa spec, rsic-v avoids this becuase every company seems to not want to do the same thing arm did.
@autolycus The MacBook Pro I'm typing this on has Broadcom wireless adapter that has an opensource reverse-engineered driver and a proprietary one from Broadcom and the former is not useable — it can associate with a wireless network, but it's not something I would use on a daily basis. It's a 2011 MacBook and reverse-engineered driver *NEVER* caught up, I'm speaking from experience here. Should I explain why it would be worse in case with ARM-based Macs? @phoronix
@m0xee@phoronix Most of my computers are Macs and none of them run macOS. They literally cannot run macOS unless I use an ancient version.
10+ years ago, I would run macOS as my primary OS and I would dual boot into Linux (mostly just to teach myself Linux). Linux was. . .not great. Things like trackpad support, going to sleep, etc. were just broken.
Thanks to the efforts of Linux developers who prioritized the Mac, these issues are now resolved and my computers continue to be useful.
@autolycus Most of my hardware is also Apple hardware, you don't have to tell me what it is. Even 10 years ago this hardware was supported better than average PC hardware because it was the same commodity hardware based on Intel chipsets. And we have e.g. hardware video decoding support not because someone reverse-engineered it on their spare time, but because a qualified engineer on Intel's payroll *with access to the spec* have contributed it. @phoronix
@phoronix Nothing of value was lost, my stance on Asahi Linux remains the same: https://m0xEE.Net/gemlog/posts/2024-09-05-asahi-linux-is-pointless.gmi It's a waste of effort that'd better be used elsewhere, nowadays we have plenty of hardware that's way more open than that of Apple, and hardware based on reverse-engineering effort would always remain far from perfect.
Hector Martin Resigns From The Asahi Linux Project
Last week Hector Martin resigned from upstream maintainership of the Apple Silicon code for the Linux kernel. At the time he was still going to contribute to the Asahi Linux project's downstream kernel but in a surprise move today, he has decided to resign as project leader of Asahi Linux... https://www.phoronix.com/news/Hector-Martin-Resigns-Asahi