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   Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 22:58:24 JST Rich Felker

   • Dare Obasanjo

   @carnage4life Where does this 🤮 mindset come from? Why would anyone want a "promotion"?

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Thursday, 13-Feb-2025 23:17:38 JST Rich Felker

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     @carnage4life Like, "I has this specific type of work I want to be doing, and getting there requires going through these positions first and having my ability recognized" is one thing, okay. But "I want a 'promotion' because it's deemed higher in the hierarchy and I'll get paid even more above the level I have any use for" is just pathological brainrot.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 04:19:29 JST Rich Felker

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     • Zeh Fernando

     @zeh @carnage4life Such utter garbage. No wonder their products are so awful.

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     Zeh Fernando (zeh@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 04:19:31 JST Zeh Fernando

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     @dalias @carnage4life In "Big Tech", higher financial compensation and bigger titles is seen as the end game. That's how they value themselves and others, sometimes right out of college.

     People burn themselves chasing that carrot. This also creates a weird social dynamic where, if you're not chasing a promotion, you're "slacking off". Sometimes that comes from the top chain: you need to be moving up, or you're out.

     "I'm happy at my current level" is taboo that cannot be spoken out loud.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 06:31:43 JST Rich Felker

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     • LisPi

     @lispi314 @zeh @carnage4life It's not even "live to work". That can make sense for some people who are highly driven by the value for what they do. But this "zomg promotion promotion" pathology doesn't even admit the possibility of continuing to do some work that you deem to have value. It's constantly abandoning it and moving on to something where you're deemed "higher up" in social hierarchy (but only by people with the same pathology).

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     LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 06:31:44 JST LisPi

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     • Zeh Fernando
     @zeh @carnage4life @dalias > Sometimes that comes from the top chain: you need to be moving up, or you're out.
     
     I've seen that in person, it's incomprehensible.
     
     Does one work to live or live to work? The latter is unarguably pathological and the former is very arguably so too.
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     LisPi (lispi314@udongein.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 06:34:03 JST LisPi

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     @dalias @carnage4life @zeh It's capitalist brainrot on an individual level.
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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 06:34:10 JST Rich Felker

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     • LisPi

     @lispi314 @zeh @carnage4life "Cancer mindset"

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     Zeh Fernando (zeh@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 14-Feb-2025 08:10:42 JST Zeh Fernando

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     @dalias @carnage4life I think it's a problem that is prominent not just in the company depicted but almost everywhere in big tech. After a certain size, things stop making sense, everyone is doing bullshit work. They can't derive value from what they're making it building, so they do that from their paycheck and title.

     Related: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs