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   Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 14:19:10 JST Paul Cantrell

   • Michael Dekker

   @dekk
   Huh? Sorry, what is this in relation to?

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     Michael Dekker (dekk@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 14:19:58 JST Michael Dekker

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     @inthehands https://mastodon.world/@StillIRise1963/113981297225973149

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 14:26:14 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Michael Dekker

     @dekk
     Ah! So…wait, there are 40k car fire fatalities…what, in the US? annually? That seems…high?

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     Michael Dekker (dekk@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 14:30:48 JST Michael Dekker

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     @inthehands that’s what I’m missing. It’s just car fire fatalities? 2 events is not enough for 4 significant digits, but 10 per 100k is a full oom greater than 1.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 14:31:59 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Michael Dekker

     @dekk
     Yes, just fire fatalities. And low N is clearly a problem, but it’s…an eyebrow-raising number all the same.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 14:35:38 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Michael Dekker

     @dekk I think it’s even more than 1 oom? But I may be skipping a groove with hasty web searches….

     643 car fire fatalities annually in the US:
     https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/research/nfpa-research/fire-statistical-reports/vehicle-fires?l=0
     = 1 per ~400k for all vehicles

     vs. 1 per ~7K for Cybertrucks, using the study’s estimate of vehicles on the road:
     https://fuelarc.com/evs/its-official-the-cybertruck-is-more-explosive-than-the-ford-pinto/

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     Michael Dekker (dekk@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 14:41:44 JST Michael Dekker

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     @inthehands Agreed. Let’s stipulate that the truck bomb doesn’t count. The CT is 1 per 10k. The Pinto is reportedly 1 per 100k. That’s my 1 oom. 1 per 400k for all vehicles is another .5 oom.

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     Paul Cantrell (inthehands@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Feb-2025 14:50:05 JST Paul Cantrell

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     • Michael Dekker

     @dekk
     Ah! I was unclear on the terms of comparison: you're talking about 1oom vs Pinto (of course); I was looking at ~60x vs contemporary overall average.