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   ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 20:53:18 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:
   Idk why retards want people to use docker containers for stuff like home assistant and frigate.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 21:00:42 JST Phantasm

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     @dcc Simple, soyware like that is annoying to setup on bare-metal and incredibly annoying to package for distributions.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 21:01:21 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @phnt >annoying
     I looked at the way to do it bare metal and its just python-ven lol, easy af shit.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 21:03:09 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @phnt But yea packaging non executable is a pain (fuck python)
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 21:10:23 JST Phantasm

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     @dcc I know, the fun begins when one of the deps requires a different (newer) version of Python than what you have installed. Because I doubt that the Python deps support 3.6/3.7.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 21:12:57 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @phnt >don't have add-on support
     Seems you can make it work with manual install of addons.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 21:12:58 JST Phantasm

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     @dcc And also you won't have add-on support when installing it in a venv or a container. You need their VM. That is even more stupid than using Docker.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 21:15:19 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @phnt Also the idea you need a entire separate computer to run once piece of software is insane (other than stuff like pfsense)
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Feb-2025 21:39:31 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @phnt Related, this article is just the worst way to setup up a home server lol https://wiki.futo.org/index.php/Introduction_to_a_Self_Managed_Life:_a_13_hour_%26_28_minute_presentation_by_FUTO_software
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:52:39 JST Phantasm

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     >I know, the fun begins when one of the deps requires a different (newer) version of Python than what you have installed.
     As expected Python 3.12 is required for some depends, Python 3.13 required for HomeAssistant itself. Which makes it uninstallable on Debian 12 Stable, RHEL9 and Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. It literally cannot be installed on basically anything sensible. homeassistant-2025.1.4 installs with Python 3.12.
     
     >Also the idea you need a entire separate computer to run once piece of software is insane (other than stuff like pfsense)
     It's worse. It's Docker on top of a KVM.
     https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/operating-system/
     
     Devs like this should be forced to target all 4 major BSDs for a year to learn what portability means.
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     Docker on KVM meme
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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Monday, 10-Feb-2025 02:53:40 JST menherahair

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     @dcc @phnt >I LIKE Immich, Home Assistant, Syncthing, FreePBX, OnlyOffice, Nextcloud, Mailcow, Frigate.
     opinion discarded, all trustworthy people hate every piece of software and hardware they've resigned themselves to use
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