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   BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 10:40:00 JST BeAware

   • Roni Laukkarinen

   I sure do wish I could search the wider Fediverse without having a mastodon.social account...

   Oh wait, @rolle made this exact thing and got harassed, threatened, and insulted by the ignorant Fedi mafia who thinks that Fedi is "private" for some dumb reason.

   If you want privacy, go to signal.

   I want a USABLE social media platform that isn't owned by a corporate asshole.

   Fedi is barely usable without discoverability and ignorance is killing it.

   Educate yourself. ActivityPub is an OPEN protocol.

   Stop harassing people that are building on that openness. You're killing Fedi.🤬

   #Fedi #Fediverse #ActivityPub #SocialMedia #Mastodon #FediOnFire
   #FediMafiaStrikesAgain #FediMafia

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 10:52:21 JST BeAware

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     • Julian Fietkau
     • Roni Laukkarinen

     @julian @rolle every instance has a public timeline.

     It would have just made it so I don't have to go to mastodon.social, which would be VERY nice.

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     Julian Fietkau (julian@fietkau.social)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 10:52:22 JST Julian Fietkau

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     • Roni Laukkarinen

     @BeAware He'll probably clarify this himself, but just to head it off a bit: @rolle didn't build a search engine or a database, but an ephemeral browser-based display of the public timeline. Bit of a difference in scope (and privacy).

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     BeAware_ (beaware_@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:07:42 JST BeAware_

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     • CBinNYC

     @craigburdett @BeAware thanks for proving me right. 🙄

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     CBinNYC (craigburdett@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:07:43 JST CBinNYC

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     @BeAware
     Go back to Twitter.

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:41:29 JST BeAware

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     • Marc W. :sun:

     @marc_w ActivityPub is an open protocol.

     How is that debatable? 🤨

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     Marc W. :sun: (marc_w@union.place)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:41:30 JST Marc W. :sun:

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     • Roni Laukkarinen

     @BeAware @rolle

     Different people want different things from from the Fediverse, but somehow what *YOU* want is what counts. That's not the way it works.

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:44:03 JST BeAware

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     • AterNox

     @Nox not that I'm aware of...?

     What sort of barriers? As far as my experience has been, everything is open until someone takes action to stop that via blocking or defederating.

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     AterNox (nox@atergens.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:44:04 JST AterNox

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     @BeAware As a smaller Server, I can see the need to find new folks that have the same interests. On the other hand, I thought Fediverse was setup with Barriers to prevent folks finding too much info ya?

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     AterNox (nox@atergens.com)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:51:38 JST AterNox

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     @BeAware Isn't that why the search never gets implemented completely? I tried a couple of different tools and end up just moving to different servers looking for folks.

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 11:51:38 JST BeAware

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     • AterNox

     @Nox Search is instance based. Every admin can choose to implement it or not and each account has options to limit their discoverability by search.

     So those who don't want to be found have MANY options to limit their visibility. Whether that be by locking their account, posting with "unlisted" visibility, posting with "followers only" visibility, or turning off search discovery features.

     There's no reason to harass devs of discoverability services because each person can protect themselves.

     Since search is instance based, I have to go to mastodon.social to search for content i'm interested in because they're the most federated instance. It's just an annoyance.

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     My camera shoots fascists (mikal@sfba.social)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 13:55:17 JST My camera shoots fascists

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     @BeAware

     One of the things I have to keep sheepishly explaining to the people I'm fedi-evangelizing is that "it's hard to find people you might know, but don't get discouraged..."

     Yeah, that's not a particularly good way to convince people to come here when finding their friends on Blue Sky is apparently pretty easy. I'm not there so I don't know what's different, but I keep convincing people to make accounts here, only for them to quickly go dormant.

     I would really like to be able to follow all the activist types I used to follow on Twitter, where I could get live-post updates on things like protests. There is very little of that here that I've been able to find.

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     Pauliina Lievonen (pauliinalievonen@mementomori.social)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 18:29:20 JST Pauliina Lievonen

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     • My camera shoots fascists

     @Mikal @BeAware As a new user, this is my biggest frustration! There are people I _know_ are on Mastodon, and I can't find them. On bluesky, I just type in their username and there they are.

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 23:01:09 JST BeAware

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     • catbarking

     @catbarking @rolle he created a "firehose" software which basically is a "federated" timeline aggregator from what I understand.

     Basically just made it so that you don't have to go to mastodon.social to see a live feed of most Fedi instances.

     Not like he was taking people's posts who couldn't stop him from taking them. Just don't post with "public" setting....🤦♂️

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     catbarking@public.mitra.social's status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 23:01:18 JST catbarking

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     • Roni Laukkarinen

     @BeAware @rolle Definitely don't go to Signal for privacy, which literally requires phone number (insane), uses Cloudflare which makes you vulnerable to 0-click deanonymization attack, refuses to fix or acknowledge security vulnerabilities, and is centralized (lock-in). Better use SimpleX which has no unique user IDs, no accounts, and protects your meta-data on a very nice level unlike Matrix, Signal and many others

     As for Fediverse, I do not know why a PUBLIC platform for SOCIAL media would have anything to do with privacy. Anonymity? Yes. Security? Please do. Privacy? Why? It's social network! I'd certainly love more discoverability features

     By the way, what did @rolle do?

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     Roni Laukkarinen (rolle@mementomori.social)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Feb-2025 23:14:17 JST Roni Laukkarinen

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     • catbarking

     @BeAware @catbarking

     I was relieved to see how @news covered this whole ordeal yesterday. It warms my heart to know there were people who defended me and truly saw me. At the time, it felt like 90% of the Fediverse was against me. I shut the project down to avoid having my private messages flooded with hate.

     https://wedistribute.org/2025/02/fedionfire-shutdown/

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     Lin (linchiao@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:10:18 JST Lin

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     • Roni Laukkarinen

     @BeAware @rolle when he harassed, threatened...?

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:10:18 JST BeAware

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     • Lin

     @linchiao @rolle https://fedi.reclaim.technology/notice/ApulcnmWpoKrHqTvuK

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:42:57 JST BeAware

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     • david [blobcat]

     @rolle @david and this is why Fedi will continue to go nowhere.

     Most devs just don't wanna deal with the mental anguish of ignorant assholes harassing them.

     So they just won't and will go back to corporate hellholes.

     Fuck the Fedi mafia.

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     Roni Laukkarinen (rolle@mementomori.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:42:58 JST Roni Laukkarinen

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     • david [blobcat]

     @david I decided it's not worth the cost. @BeAware

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     david [blobcat] (david@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:43:00 JST david [blobcat]

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     @BeAware
     
     @rolle i think that you should continue this project tbh. you didn't do anything wrong, it's just the fedi mafia getting mad because "it makes it easier for cops to find out about protests" or some <insert bs reason here>, as if they can't find out any of that on twitter anyways?
     
     you really did nothing wrong here. there is no need to apologise, they are just triggered lol https://fedi.reclaim.technology/notice/ApulcnmWpoKrHqTvuK
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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:44:18 JST BeAware

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     • Lin

     @rolle @linchiao we need a "days since ignorant fucks thought Fediverse is 'private'" page.🙄😒

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     Roni Laukkarinen (rolle@mementomori.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:44:20 JST Roni Laukkarinen

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     • Lin

     @BeAware

     I'm a "tech bro asshole" :ablobwave:
     https://cathode.church/fedi-scraper-counter.html

     @linchiao

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:51:13 JST BeAware

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     • david [blobcat]

     @rolle @david it's just mind blowing to me that they don't realize that the technology is built directly into Fediverse to protect themselves from being seen on public timelines...just don't post publicly!

     Like...we have privacy options for a reason!🤦♂️

     Do they not know how to post with an "unlisted" or "followers only" setting? Maybe there needs to be a tutorial.

     I never thought something so easy would need a tutorial....yet....here we are?😳

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     Roni Laukkarinen (rolle@mementomori.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:51:14 JST Roni Laukkarinen

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     • david [blobcat]

     @BeAware Yeah, it's unfortunate. But I will not give in. I will continue building tools. Gotta be careful though.

     I know where they come from, because minorities been harrassed for so long. Yet I can't understand why they are doing the exact same thing than their harassers.

     I'm not one of those "kill or be killed". My mom told be to always be polite. This is why I quote a 4 time concentration camp holocaust survivor Eddie Jaku so often, he did not even want to punch nazis, he knew hate is a disease and will end both parties. @david

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     Patrick (ppb1701@ppb.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 01:58:26 JST Patrick

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     • Lin

     @BeAware @rolle @linchiao wouldn't break like 5 if that

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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 02:09:49 JST BeAware

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     @david @rolle absolutely! Welcome to learning about Pleroma MRF policies that don't give a fuck about your "privacy" :kek: they even have a policy to ignore delete requests from other servers.

     "Oh? You thought you deleted that embarrassing post? Heh, NOPE!"

     Yet people are worried about public timelines that every fucking instance has.

     Give me a break.🤦♂️

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     david [blobcat] (david@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 02:09:51 JST david [blobcat]

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     @BeAware @rolle i mean, there must be some way of converting private posts to public because ryona.agency has an mrf that does that .
     I can understand the concern with that if someone was to use such code in their fedi scraper.
     
     my opinion is basically if it's not meant to be public but you make it public then it's wrong.
     
     i think fedi scrapers if its public posts are fine. I get the concern over AI that some ppl might have tho, but it does seem kinda inevitable. there are AI ppl on fedi, so it's kinda unavoidable tbh
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     david [blobcat] (david@blob.cat)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 02:12:04 JST david [blobcat]

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     @BeAware @rolle yep. annihilation.social has the reject delete mrf. Lol
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 02:12:17 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     • david [blobcat]
     @david @rolle @BeAware basados
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     BeAware (beaware@social.beaware.live)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 06:32:04 JST BeAware

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     • Roni Laukkarinen
     • Lin

     @linchiao @rolle last time I checked, Roni isn't a corporation and what he built here is built into every single mastodon instance.

     It was just a public timeline.

     Don't wanna be on it? Don't post publicly.

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     Lin (linchiao@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Feb-2025 06:32:05 JST Lin

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     • Roni Laukkarinen

     @BeAware @rolle No, I agree with them. I don't want my data to be manipulated by those damn corporations for their own benefit.