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I saw a blusky post where a guy said that nothing trump is doing is anything anyone asked for and I wonder how this person got to late adulthood without ever meeting anyone that ever disagreed with him.
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@dagda not saying trump is good just that deporting illegal immigrants is actually pretty underserved political position
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The Trump method is taking popular aspirations like job security, affordable groceries and government overspending and putting his "twist" on it (Biden created more jobs while Trump will continue his attacks on workers rights, tariffs will continue price hikes, nuking medicaid and schools because they're "just as expandable as le DEI feminist black yoga course lole" )
They got through with it because Democrats never even attempted to set a narrative and went to the usual liberal "everything is ok, orange man bad, vote me or ur an incel chud" brain cancer.
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@dagda > (this does actually change the meta-politics in favor of the right and arguably has pro-natalist effects according to some).
i think the right just naturally gets this one in their favor.
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yeah ik but he's not "doing the popular thing", he's usually pulling off some trick to pretend he's doing the thing, and many believe him because the Dems and institutions let them down and some supporters genuinely treat MAGA like a cult.
As for the deportation plans that one may be a point where he's possibly doing something in line with a wide part of american opinion. Xenophobia is a strong agitator, some will unironically rather hunger if they see some neighbors they don't like deported. He will still replace high paying jobs with H1B immigrants, as this creates pressure on domestic working class, but possibly change some low-payed immigrant workers for US-born ones. That's in line with the bigger US-right wing strategy of getting more people into jobs that don't require academic education, as they want to put less emphasis on public schools and universities and more on home schooling and religious education (this does actually change the meta-politics in favor of the right and arguably has pro-natalist effects according to some).
To achieve that they will probably try to devalue manual work through reducing workers rights to the point where domestic labor is not much more expansive then foreign one, however the job will be as precarious (or even more) than for the immigrant workers before
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>tfw not even any economic principle, labour value logic or state theory is the bottleneck for socialism but just socialists not procreating
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@dagda personal antinatalism is a choice but political antinatalism is messed up imo
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@sun it's usually blackpilled feminism, I'm not a huge fan of "nothing ever happens, so everything must go to shit really fast" theories.
However I don't even know how big the impact of political measures on demographics really is. Hungary is basically very trad and patriarchal now and it barely had an effect on their population growth.
Maybe regardless of political affiliation it might be interesting to see how Japan will try to fix it, as it's literally a life and death question for them.
Good ideas often grow in peril, maybe there will be applicable solutions that go beyond "make everything really heccin trad and make life worse for women"
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