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   Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 07:46:57 JST Jay Baker

   Proton Says It’s "Politically Neutral" While Praising Republican Party. "It's reasonable to worry that tech companies' backbone for protecting users in this way might soften when they get too politically involved with any one administration," said Andrew Crocker, EFF's surveillance litigation director.vhttps://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/ #Proton #ProtonMail #AndyYen

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 07:47:57 JST Jay Baker

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     "While Proton states that it 'cannot read any of your messages or hand them over to third parties,' the same doesn’t apply to email subjects; sender or recipient names and email addresses; the time a message was sent; or other information in the 'header' section of email messages."

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 07:58:35 JST Jay Baker

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     For those interested in the alternative options to Proton and their various services, check out my previous posts about this over the last week. (I actually have files syncing elsewhere as I write this, so bye bye Proton...)

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 08:07:58 JST Jay Baker

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     • MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

     @fkamiah17 That's awesome. An interesting difference from them here, too: While, like Proton, mail addresses, senders and recipients remain unencrypted by Tuta, unlike Proton they keep subject lines encrypted alongside attachments, address books, the entire search index, calendars, and even metadata such as notifications.

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     MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸 (fkamiah17@syzito.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 08:07:59 JST MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

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     @MediaActivist Opened an account with Tuta yesterday ✊

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     jonathankoren™ (jonathankoren@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 08:09:13 JST jonathankoren™

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     @MediaActivist well, the headers are sent — and must be sent — in the clear. That’s just how email works.

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 08:09:13 JST Jay Baker

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     • jonathankoren™

     @jonathankoren At least Tuta ensure subject lines are end-to-end encrypted: https://tuta.com/encryption

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 09:07:37 JST Jay Baker

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     • Steve Moore :toad:

     @ArrowbearMoore Yes, some very justifiably pissed off people. And I agree with you totally, much more needed, though the damage may be done for many of us.

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     Steve Moore :toad: (arrowbearmoore@toad.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 09:07:38 JST Steve Moore :toad:

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     @MediaActivist Andy made a boo-boo, Andy said "Sorry for the boo-boo", the boo-boo still smarts, Protonmail needs to do more than just accept Andy's apology to restore reputation as a viable alt to corporate/ceo driven services. Interesting thread here -https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i2nz9v/on_politics_and_proton_a_message_from_andy/?rdt=37508

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 09:11:00 JST Jay Baker

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     • jonathankoren™

     @LordsofHardwired @jonathankoren Tuta are really good. I've posted a lot about them over the last week, and how they compare to Proton (favourably).

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     jonathankoren™ (jonathankoren@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 09:11:02 JST jonathankoren™

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     @MediaActivist that’s just because they rip out subject line and rewriting it themselves or something. I doubt whatever trick they’re doing works seemlessly for whatever non tuta recipient, and certainly does not work for any non tuta sender.

     Relying on a proprietary hack to open standard is not good opsec.

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     Pepper 🐾 (lordsofhardwired@med-mastodon.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 09:11:02 JST Pepper 🐾

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     @jonathankoren @MediaActivist so is Tuta good to use or not?

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 10:50:46 JST Jay Baker

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     • Spencer Christiano

     @172frames I love 12ft and forget it's needed as I read a lot of the news stories of my RSS feed reader that seems to display them fine. So thanks!

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     Spencer Christiano (172frames@zirk.us)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 10:50:47 JST Spencer Christiano

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     @MediaActivist link to bypass mandatory email signup:
     https://12ft.io/https://theintercept.com/2025/01/28/proton-mail-andy-yen-trump-republicans/

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     DroidPort (droidport@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 10:53:30 JST DroidPort

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     @LordsofHardwired @jonathankoren @MediaActivist

     Before you do that... What exactly is Proton doing here that you have a problem with?

     Being email? (Cause the concerns regarding header data will the case with all)

     Or comparing Democrats and Republicans on Anti-Trust priorities?

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 10:53:30 JST Jay Baker

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     • DroidPort

     @DroidPort @LordsofHardwired @jonathankoren For me? Claiming neutrality in situations of injustice means siding with the oppressor, to paraphrase Desmond Tutu, and I was disgusting by the grotesque "both sides" rhetoric in an era of late capitalism. That's in addition to their overpriced, under-performing services.

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     Pepper 🐾 (lordsofhardwired@med-mastodon.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 10:53:31 JST Pepper 🐾

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     @jonathankoren @MediaActivist so what is a good alternative for finding a new email. I’m open to whatever besides proton.

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     jonathankoren™ (jonathankoren@sfba.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 10:53:32 JST jonathankoren™

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     @LordsofHardwired @MediaActivist probably fine. Don’t buy the hype about anything than encrypted bodies and attachments though

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jan-2025 18:20:41 JST Jay Baker

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     • MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸
     • Storka Nisch

     @storkanisch @fkamiah17 That's really useful, thanks! It is definitely all about threat modelling - balancing daily user-friendly reliable use with chance of raids. Obviously, any activists carrying out anonymous, often illegal acts, will require much more than the average politically aware person needing an email to, say, link their shopping accounts to.

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     Storka Nisch (storkanisch@todon.nl)'s status on Thursday, 30-Jan-2025 18:20:43 JST Storka Nisch

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     • MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

     @MediaActivist @fkamiah17

     Tuta is regularly compliant with police demands for account data, though, an important anti-feature beyond the technicalities of email encryption.

     https://tuta.com/blog/transparency-report

     For a few options that are less likely to do that (which isn't to say they don't have their own limitations):

     https://paper.wf/downas/where-to-get-an-anticapitalist-anti-surveillance-email-address

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     Jay Baker (mediaactivist@todon.eu)'s status on Friday, 31-Jan-2025 01:55:23 JST Jay Baker

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     • Storka Nisch

     @storkanisch @fkamiah17 I use some of the more radical options, and have supported a lot over the years, but I wouldn't always recommend all of them all of the time - that's why user-friendly options like Tuta are great (unlike Proton); we don't have to use a sledgehammer to crack a peanut.

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     Storka Nisch (storkanisch@todon.nl)'s status on Friday, 31-Jan-2025 01:55:24 JST Storka Nisch

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     • MiniMia 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 🇵🇸

     @MediaActivist @fkamiah17

     Right, & just like it helps to have people using PM who don't have urgent need for encryption, it helps to have people using the left/radical options who don't expect to face political repression personally.