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   Mercurial "The Game" Black (merc@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 05:44:07 JST Mercurial "The Game" Black

   • Arcana
   @arcana Interact with this please people I want to read everyone's perspective on this
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     waifu (waifu@mai.waifuism.life)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 06:30:55 JST waifu

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     • Arcana

     @Merc@lab.nyanide.com @arcana@fedi.layer02.net I think of politics in an A->B sense and not the other way around. Like math, say for example you have the theory of Subjective-Value and the Value-work, so depending which one you take as an axiom, you arrive into a specific kind of political system. First part wrong with collectivism is that it comes from a simply wrong economical system. since the value-work theory doesn't align with reality. second part is that they're inherently controlling, you have to force people to do things in collectivist systems, most normally using violence. the A->B part is important, because some people don't follow it, so they just see the end product as the important part, not where it comes from.
     
     So normally collectivism is a mix between people that don't know better (Think that only B is important (example: Getting rid of poverty)), or genuinely bad people that know that the system is incorrect and use it to control people.

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     Arkana (arkana@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2025 07:17:43 JST Arkana

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     • Arcana
     @waifu @arcana @Merc Collectivism is just putting people of your group ahead of those outside of your group. That is the foundation of family, city, state, etc.
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