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   Claire, The Ultimate Worrier (waitworry@sakurajima.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 11:53:11 JST Claire, The Ultimate Worrier

   @PallasRiot it wasn't even really a poem more of a speech

   i dunno that is pretty pedantic but still

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     Alex P. 👹 (saddestrobots@jorts.horse)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 11:53:07 JST Alex P. 👹

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     • jonathankoren™

     @waitworry @jonathankoren @PallasRiot
     yup. and it was literally anti-communism that led him into supporting Hitler in the first place.

     his 1946 speech also mentions Aktion T4 against disabled people and every single version of the "poem" I've seen ignores that

     …

     i think that the (undiluted) admonition is useful but it kinda bothers me that Neimoller is the guy everyone's "learning from" when people like Hirschfeld already had the fascists thoroughly figured out as early as 1920

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     Claire, The Ultimate Worrier (waitworry@sakurajima.moe)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 11:53:08 JST Claire, The Ultimate Worrier

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     • jonathankoren™

     @saddestrobots @jonathankoren @PallasRiot yeah weird how the very first one keeps getting ommited wonder what is up with that

     Rich Felker repeated this.
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     Alex P. 👹 (saddestrobots@jorts.horse)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 11:53:09 JST Alex P. 👹

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     @jonathankoren @waitworry @PallasRiot
     the thing that drives me nuts is how it just gets endlessly edited and restructured, like half the people quoting the "poem" are basically like, "well i can say *that one,* people don't like them!!"

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     jonathankoren™ (jonathankoren@sfba.social)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 11:53:10 JST jonathankoren™

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     @waitworry @PallasRiot yeah it’s kind of weird. A speech that someone (I don’t even think him, if I remember correctly) turned into a poem