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    carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 09:00:40 JST carl marks carl marks

    So I want to provide some elaboration on this fediblock post I made: https://blackqueer.life/@tillshadeisgone/113891510610086508

    I want to remind you all of selection from of my pinned post on conflict with comrades, which I believe is relevant here.

    So, I have been rethinking how I interact with this space going forward to better protect myself but also to have a more robust and intentional framework for how to engage with conflicts. I've been learning about how revolutionaries in the past have handled conflict with each other while maintaining unity in their movement. Many of these practices existed within local orgs and communities, and therefore are not necessarily applicable or appropriate for a digital and public space like this. However, I think some lessons can still be taken. So, in light of that, HERE IS MY PROPOSAL: If I am engaging with you and I believe that while we are aligned in our goals for liberation, you are inadvertently causing harm with your words, I may ask you to self-crit. This is not an attack, but is an invitation to reconsider what you are saying. This will also mean that I am available to you, privately or publicly, to explain my thinking and have a dialogue about our disagreement.

    This policy is what I was drawing on when I engaged with the user I made a fediblock post about. As mentioned in my fediblock post, I chose to reach out privately to mention my concern and be able to explain my thinking in the hopes that I would be heard. This was a couple of days ago.

    The thing is, just as I mentioned in said pinned post that antiblackess destroys unity, ableism destroys unity too. Black disabled folks have been saying for YEARS on this and every other digital platform that they feel excluded from just about every single community space, on the left or otherwise. This is not new information by any means.

    Therefore, ESPECIALLY given that as our server's About section points out, 1 in 4 Black American adults are disabled, it is my responsibility as the admin of BQL to make sure that our space does not reproduce that same dynamic. If I want Black disabled people to feel like they can be in our community, I cannot allow ableism in our community. Full stop.

    As I feel like I keep repeating, this is something I take very seriously. And sometimes, despite my best efforts, attempts to convince people that they are doing harm are not going to be successful. That is what happened in this case. The person did not listen to me or anyone else who tried to convince her, including Black disabled people who were impacted by her words. She continued, over the course of the past two or three days, to double down, saying that racism is a mental illness. Then, she started defending using the R slur and blaming disabled people for Trump being elected, explicitly referencing alleged decreases in average IQ scores.

    When someone is repeatedly insistent on echoing eugenics ideology and Nazi talking points about intelligence, that is several steps past what is acceptable. To steal some language I got from communists, the contradiction between her deeply held beliefs and the presence and value of my disabled users was clearly antagonistic and not resolvable through dialogue.

    Sometimes, you have to do the hard thing. It wasn't pleasant, but guess what? That's the job. Do you think it was pleasant for me to suspend instances like tech.lgbt or aus.social where we had a lot of connections, cutting our users off from theirs? To make public posts about it before and after? No, it was extremely stressful and upsetting and brought a lot more harassment my way. But I did it anyway. Wasn't the first time, won't be the last.

    Oh, and it is worth mentioning that I have been accused of catering to the "white political gaze" by making my fediblock post, implying that I am doing so for the optics and because I care about getting accolades from white people more than I care about my fellow Black folks. It has been implied that this is all theater, and has no connection to any real beliefs on my part. To that, all I can say is that ableism is a bigger danger to Black folks than white people. White supremacy is inextricably tied to ableism, and I have referenced and boosted multiple works by Black disabled advocates and academics in the past two days who discuss that exact concept. In short, disability justice is not just for fucking white people.

    To close, I just want to restate that at the end of the day, ableism is a violation of rule #1 on BQL. Anyone who doesn't agree with the existence of that rule or who doesn't like it when we enforce it is no comrade of mine.

    Thanks for reading.

    #FediBlockMeta

    In conversation about 4 months ago from blackqueer.life permalink

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      Content warning: Fediblock for serious ableism from erickasimone@mastodon.social, ableist language and slurs included
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      carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 05:53:47 JST carl marks carl marks
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      • rfg

      @rfg @Sharksonaplane gonna have to agree with her on this one, the post I linked definitely said she was a mutual of mine.

      I am also not okay with calling a Black women like Ericka a rage bait poster, which is why I didn't reply to you before. She has a right to be angry about white supremacy, and my call-out of her ableism in no way should be taken as permission for anyone to question her humanity in any way shape or form.

      I get what you were saying initially but I want to be clear.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      rfg (rfg@bark.lgbt)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 05:53:49 JST rfg rfg
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      • Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)

      @Sharksonaplane @tillshadeisgone No. It's the same passive-agressive American dog-whistling, with repeated quotes and pearl-clutching.

      This is you trying to create a perception. I don't think this is even meant for me, but for everyone else reading to come join the dogpile.

      I don't think you can see it. So I'm going to not bother anymore.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx) (sharksonaplane@mastodon.sandwich.net)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 05:53:50 JST Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx) Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)
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      • rfg

      @rfg @tillshadeisgone It's in the original post they made, and it does matter, because it shows that this was a shitty situation that was about more than just blocking some rando. Pointing out that "well was she even a real user" (not bot, I did assume there and that's on me) is a response that minimizes the emotional impact of what they went through isn't "creating drama" unless you are a person who views any attempt to call you in as "drama".

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      rfg (rfg@bark.lgbt)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 05:53:52 JST rfg rfg
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      @Sharksonaplane @tillshadeisgone
      Not that this deserves an explanation, or escalation—
      1. 'was not talking to you.
      2. I didn't see any mention of the word mutual or anything similar. Not that it matters.
      3. Please go back and check if I said it's a bot account, or you decided I did.

      Stop looking for oppotunities to create drama where there is none. You're just doing more of what all this is about.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx) (sharksonaplane@mastodon.sandwich.net)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 05:53:53 JST Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx) Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)
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      • rfg

      @rfg @tillshadeisgone depersoning someone that eva explicitly stated they used to be mutuals with and spoke to directly not only doesn't help, it minimizes the situation and tacitly implies that eva cannot tell a person from a bot.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      rfg (rfg@bark.lgbt)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 05:53:55 JST rfg rfg
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      @tillshadeisgone Is this even a genuine user? The only thing on that account seems to be twitter-style political rage bait.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 07:03:04 JST carl marks carl marks
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      • rfg

      @rfg yeah you said she wasn't even a real account like real accounts with real people running them don't get angry or have meltdowns or post about politics all the time. You'll note that when I was talking about her, I was very careful in how I spoke not to dehumanize her. You should consider that when engaging with Black people in the future because you clearly haven't a clue how to do it right now

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      rfg (rfg@bark.lgbt)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 07:03:06 JST rfg rfg
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      • Shar(yna)Tran/Shark(aeopteryx)

      @tillshadeisgone @Sharksonaplane
      So someone that's been advertised for a fediblock for ableism, and then continuing to use ableist slurs; can definitely not be rage-baiting. And suggesting so is taboo.

      But, its alright to use crafty language to make it appear like I am, "questioning someones humanity", and "depersoning" them.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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