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   GalacticTurtle (galacticturtle@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:10:22 JST GalacticTurtle
   In theory, could the UK disband? Is that just as unlikely as the US disbanding? I still don't understand why Ireland is the way it is.
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     Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:10:21 JST Flick ??

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     @GalacticTurtle Oh, that’s a big ol’ can of worms.

     Scotland had a referendum on leaving the UK in 2016 (? I think: then-ish), which voted no by a fairly narrow margin. Wales has a pro-indy party that’s never been hugely successful in the elections. NI has (I think: someone correct me!) a rule in place that there will be a referendum on leaving the UK to join RoI if polling on both sides of the border reaches a certain level of support (presumably 50%, but I’m not sure).

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     Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:10:21 JST Flick ??

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     @GalacticTurtle Interestingly, the only people in the UK who don’t get a say are the English: all the other nations have their own… call them state legislatures.

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     GalacticTurtle (galacticturtle@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:10:21 JST GalacticTurtle

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     @Flick Well wouldn't the UK not be a thing if the English kept their hands to themselves from the start?
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     Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:10:21 JST Flick ??

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     @GalacticTurtle It’s complicated, and we got invaded a lot.

     There is, for example, a strong argument that the Welsh were the last holdouts of the Britons against the Roman and Viking invaders, long before “English” was a thing. England and Scotland became a union because the English were short of a king and wanted the Scottish one.

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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:31:17 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @Flick @GalacticTurtle Edward I conquered Wales and there are still many castles remaining which were built around this time, although many early medieval castles were damaged during the civil war.
     The Stuart dynasty were the next in line after Elizabeth I, the last Tudor monarch, died without an heir. James I of England (James VI of Scotland) was a direct descendant of Elizabeth's grandfather Henry VII. The Stuarts had a turbulent time with issues over religion, parliament, civil war, lines of succession, foreign wars etc, but ended with the Act of Union which joined Scotland to England and Wales.
     We've had an interesting history so far, and I suspect we're living through another very interesting chapter.
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     Flick ?? (flick@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:32:17 JST Flick ??

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     @sim @GalacticTurtle I think it was mostly fall-out from Elisabeth not having a child. James was the nearest relation.

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     sim@shitposter.world's status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:32:18 JST sim

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     @Flick @GalacticTurtle Wasn't it just line of succession? I mean, didn't Henry VIII's sister marry into the Scottish royalty and have a child? Margaret, her name.
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     KeepTakingTheSoma (keeptakingthesoma@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 07:33:51 JST KeepTakingTheSoma

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     @Flick @sim @GalacticTurtle It took the whole of the Stuart reign to sort out the religious mess that Elizabeth's father and sister had made.