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    Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 17:21:41 JST Yuchen Pei Yuchen Pei
    Stop the "Elon Gave a Nazi Salute" Nonsense
    https://www.hpluckrose.com/p/stop-the-elon-gave-a-nazi-salute

    > The worst thing to do is shriek “Nazi” spuriously and increase the tendency of reasonable people to assume that somebody being accused of being a Nazi has simply said something considered problematic using the tortuous reasoning of the Critical Social Justice Left and ignore it rather than have a look to see if they have, in fact, expressed views compatible with a genocidal antisemitic and/or ethnonational ideology.

    > Stop it.

    ...

    > If there is reason to be concerned about the power, influence and character of Elon Musk (and I suspect there is), the people who will need to be convinced of this will be serious, ethical, thoughtful, American conservatives who care about what is true and what is morally right, who are currently of the view that Musk is beneficial to their great nation (and hopefully the world) and are absolutely sick of the authoritarian irrationality and spurious name-calling of the Critical Social Justice left.
    In conversation about 4 months ago from peister.org permalink

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      Stop the "Elon Gave a Nazi Salute" Nonsense
      from Helen Pluckrose
      We need to be serious grown-ups.
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      LostInCalifornia (lostincalifornia@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 21:35:49 JST LostInCalifornia LostInCalifornia
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      @quasi Hm.

      He just told the German neo Nazi party to stop "feeling guilty" for being Nazis.

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-tells-germans-afd-rally-110206224.html

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 21:35:49 JST Yuchen Pei Yuchen Pei
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      • LostInCalifornia
      @LostInCalifornia
      This part? Not really the same as what you said

      > On Saturday, he said “children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents, let alone their great grandparents,” apparently referring to Germany’s Nazi past.

      > “There is too much focus on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that,” he said.
      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 21:41:15 JST Yuchen Pei Yuchen Pei
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      • LostInCalifornia
      @LostInCalifornia
      moving beyond / not feeling guilty is not the same as emulating
      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      LostInCalifornia (lostincalifornia@spinster.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 21:41:16 JST LostInCalifornia LostInCalifornia
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      @quasi Yes, the country which is still denazifying because they had Nazis as grandparents and neo nazis as parents should just get over it and let the kids follow their ancestors.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      LostInCalifornia (lostincalifornia@spinster.xyz)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 05:40:47 JST LostInCalifornia LostInCalifornia
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      @quasi You could make that argument for a party which is not extreme far right.

      You cannot make that argument for the AFD.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Yuchen Pei (quasi@peister.org)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 05:40:47 JST Yuchen Pei Yuchen Pei
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      • LostInCalifornia
      @LostInCalifornia
      That's a good point, and it's bad that musk supports a party like afd, but it is also unfair to characterise what he said here as encouraging people to be nazis and not feeling guilty when doing Nazi things
      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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