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    carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 08:09:01 JST carl marks carl marks

    https://mastodon.social/@ErickaSimone/113883945144966522

    I think it's very very important for us to be clear that racism is not and never has been a matter of mental illness, disability, or intelligence. In our commendable haste to condemn the fascists and Nazis, it is absolutely crucial to not do their work for them by echoing their own rallying cries.

    A few days ago, this user (formerly my mutual) made a fediblock post about racism calling for getting "the mentally disabled and/or bots" off this platform. I reached out over DMs to try and explain why this was harmful and a rallying cry for Nazis and eugenics supporters, and was not successful in convincing her. She made similar justifications that you can see in this post, accusing me of deliberately assuming ill-will on her part, trying to force respectability politics on her, and participating in misogynoir.

    It's true that racism and misogynoir are rampant on this platform, and she has had a slew of those experiences. There's no denying it. But in this instance she is perpetuating serious ableism and refuses to admit it or apologize for it. Not okay.

    I don't believe in rendering people disposable just because we disagree, but due to the harmful nature of her posts and arguments, I feel like a FediBlock is unfortunately needed.

    #FediBlock

    In conversation about 4 months ago from blackqueer.life permalink

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      Ericka Simone (@ErickaSimone@mastodon.social)
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      Like I said. We will openly discuss my use of the words “mental illness” and primarily, the accurate descriptor of “retardation” as A KEY COMPONENT to Whiteness, the nazi in office, and to describe the EXTREME racism and misogynoir that I have to face daily as a Black woman. The average IQ in the US is 89. Retardation starts at 75. People who cannot read above a 6th grade level voted in a felon. We will no longer pretend THESE REAL ISSUES are not a factor in why there are Nazis in office.

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      L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ (mabande@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 08:41:56 JST L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ
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      @tillshadeisgone Goddammit. Why did she have to go and do that?

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 08:41:56 JST carl marks carl marks
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      • L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ

      @Mabande I wish I knewwwww

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 19:37:36 JST carl marks carl marks
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      • jay

      @snoopy_jay I believe it was deleted, and I didn't archive it because I didn't anticipate needing to. All I have is a cached link summary:

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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      jay (snoopy_jay@mastodon.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 19:37:37 JST jay jay
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      @tillshadeisgone Do you happen to know if the original post still up? I mean it's good if it has been deleted for being ableist, but purely for my own education and after reading all the replies in the link I am still wondering what it said.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 02:56:38 JST carl marks carl marks
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      • Some Guy Extraordinaire

      @tomstearns you are free to do as you like WRT Ericka. I just think everyone should be aware of what she has been saying.

      As for the rest of your post, I will say two things.

      1, your timeline of events is inaccurate. A couple of days ago, after she made the initial Fediblock post, I reached out by DM to politely let her know I thought she was inadvertently doing harm by her post and requested that she alter it. I tried very hard to explain that my issue was with the impact of her words rather than her intent. She made excuses, deflected, accused me of misogynoir, and generally refused to admit that it was even possible that she had made a mistake. I approached her very much in the spirit of "we have the same goals so I think this is worth a conversation bc I know I've fucked up in the past too and have been lucky enough to be called in by disabled comrades so that I could do better". She didn't care and started subtooting me immediately over the course of several days.

      2, respectfully, a little discernment is required here because what you're describing and what she is doing are not the same thing. Her level of emotionality in responses I'm sure is being tempered by her emotional state and what she's going through, but the fact is she is regurgitating eugenics talking points and cussing out everyone who is trying to get her to stop, including Black disabled folks who are directly impacted by the ableism she is spewing. She is someone who is holding tight to her ableist beliefs and refuses to admit it or let them go. If you don't mind someone spouting eugenics or if you're so certain you could convince her eventually to reconsider, you are welcome to try. I failed pretty decisively but maybe you'd have more success.

      But in the meantime she doesn't get to have access to my users to continue spouting off Nazi ideology in their faces, sorry. That's a hard no for me. I don't care who you are, ableism as flagrant as that is a clear violation of the rules of my server and is not something I am willing to just let slide because someone is upset or even in crisis. Even trauma is no excuse for defending eugenics, full stop. Me and others tried to explain it to her, in private and in public, over and over. She responded by using slurs. Please refer to our mod page's pinned post on our moderating policy if you still don't see why we are doing this.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Some Guy Extraordinaire (tomstearns@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 02:56:39 JST Some Guy Extraordinaire Some Guy Extraordinaire
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      • Ericka Simone

      @tillshadeisgone I've followed @ErickaSimone for a while (other accounts). I'm not throwing her away over this.

      Please consider this hypothesis:

      - Simone is not fueled by ableist prejudice

      - A lot of awful shit has happened to her recently

      - Backing down is not how she has survived so far

      - She got criticized and reacted by fighting back, instead of backing down

      - Maybe give her a few weeks

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 11:45:49 JST carl marks carl marks
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      • Ka Takane
      • Some Guy Extraordinaire

      @takane @tomstearns wow. Like fucking clockwork, the same arguments and excuses and everything

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Ka Takane (takane@yamabi.co)'s status on Monday, 27-Jan-2025 11:45:50 JST Ka Takane Ka Takane
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      • Some Guy Extraordinaire

      @tillshadeisgone @tomstearns And this is not even the first time that she posted some ableist shit. From Nov 2024: https://mastodon.social/@ErickaSimone/113527681698818580

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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        Ericka Simone (@ErickaSimone@mastodon.social)
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        I’m going to say the uncomfortable but fully factual thing. As I always do. The majority of Americans are dealing with some type of retardation. Emotional, mental, something. Most Americans are moderately intellectually disabled, it will lead to the downfall of the planet, and I have no desire to be around any of it.
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      Tim W RESISTS (tim@union.place)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jan-2025 01:37:39 JST Tim W RESISTS Tim W RESISTS
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      @tillshadeisgone I just want to say thank you for posting this; as a cis white male I've been wrestling with instance-level action for this, and your take is very helpful and appreciated.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      The Bird (aaidanbird@disabled.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 22:19:24 JST The Bird The Bird
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      @tillshadeisgone Thank you for this. As a disabled person, I'm horrified by the threads and felt ill. I've been called that term before in an attempt to silence my voice, and it's wielded to even more disastrous effect against my Black Disabled siblings. Finding all the receipts was slow going due to flareups, so it's a relief to see it all in one thread. Thank you.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      carl marks (tillshadeisgone@blackqueer.life)'s status on Friday, 07-Feb-2025 22:19:24 JST carl marks carl marks
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      • The Bird

      @Aaidanbird glad I could be helpful, hate that something so blatantly harmful has just been tossed around flagrantly for months. Hopefully one day someone will get through to her and in the meantime folks are able to protect themselves from her nastiness

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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