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   Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:17:09 JST Christmas Sun
   how does anybody use this shit
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧 (jeffcliff@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:17:47 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧

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     @sun > using pip to install random internet software
     
     there's your problem
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:22:15 JST Christmas Sun

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     • Codekatzen288
     @Codekatzen288 this command is from the pytorch website lol
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     Codekatzen288 (codekatzen288@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:22:19 JST Codekatzen288

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     the package name is pytorch, you use torch when importing it

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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:24:36 JST Christmas Sun

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     • MMS21 :blobcatkirby:
     @MMS21 never heard of it
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     MMS21 :blobcatkirby: (mms21@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:24:42 JST MMS21 :blobcatkirby:

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     Have you tried uv? https://docs.astral.sh
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     Forestofenchantment (forestofenchantment@furville.drinkanddrive.africa)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:26:04 JST Forestofenchantment

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     • Codekatzen288
     @Codekatzen288 @sun Pytorch is the biggest piece of shit I've ever had the misfortune of using. It'll bitch and complain about my version of pytorch being out of date by a week. And when I check what's new in the updated version. It'll be like: "Fixed two security issues".
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:28:14 JST Christmas Sun

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     • Codekatzen288
     @Forestofenchantment @Codekatzen288 there is a lot of competition in the python world for biggest piece of shit
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     Codekatzen288 (codekatzen288@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:29:53 JST Codekatzen288

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     It will also bloat your system with like 2GB cuda packages even if you DONT FUCKING HAVE A NVIDIA GPU, and there's not many alternatives to it, which sucks

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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:32:03 JST :blank:

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     • MMS21 :blobcatkirby:
     @sun @MMS21 definitely try it out, sucks way less than all the other version/env managers
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:42:26 JST opal

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     @sun @Codekatzen288 typical pyshit
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:52:21 JST Christmas Sun

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     • cool_boy_mew
     @coolboymew I'm pissed that the installation command that they tell you on the front page of pytorch.org just doesn't work
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     cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 06:52:22 JST cool_boy_mew

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     @sun can't you just use brew and macport or you really need pip for that?
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 07:45:36 JST Phantasm

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     @ins0mniak @coolboymew @sun This is what happens when basically every introductory programming course teaches Python as the first language.
     
     Like it's not even a garbage language, the syntax isn't bad, if I ignore its insistence on whitespace. But it's almost always misused, the amount of garbage in the ecosystem is truly amazing and the core devs lost their path years ago.
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     Christmas Sun (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 07:45:36 JST Christmas Sun

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     • ins0mniak
     @phnt @ins0mniak @coolboymew it's the same as BASIC in the sense that it seems like if you learn it first then you can never be taught good habits
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     ins0mniak (ins0mniak@majestic12.airforce)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 07:45:38 JST ins0mniak

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     • cool_boy_mew
     @sun @coolboymew literally none of the python shit that was supposed to work out of the box would work on my nvidia dev board.
     
     Even the supplied docker images wouldn't run.
     
     fuck python
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 08:02:05 JST :segasaturn:

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     • ins0mniak
     @sun @phnt @coolboymew @ins0mniak I will always maintain that Pascal is a great introductory language, and learning a Forth is always educational even if it makes you think backwards
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     :segasaturn: (takao@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 08:06:04 JST :segasaturn:

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     • ins0mniak
     @sun @coolboymew @ins0mniak @phnt also the maturity exam at the end of secondary school over here allowed kids to choose Pascal, Java, C/++ or Python as programming language of choice, seems like they got rid of Pascal from 2024 onwards. Scum.
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     opal (wowaname@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Jan-2025 09:22:47 JST opal

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🏴‍☠️🦝🐙 🇱🇧🧯 🇨🇦🐧
     @jeffcliff @sun yeah i write package build scripts because pip is a toy
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