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   Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 16:37:22 JST Paul Sutton

   Birthright citizenship

   Just been watching the bbc news on President Trumps attempt to end Birth right citizenship, this is the 14th Amendment of the US Consitution

   Section 1

   All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

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   Now within the oath of office, you swear the following:

   Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:— "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. [2

   I am not a lawyer, but would doing this be a violation of this oath, removing protections under the 14th Amendment should result in impeachment [3]. As it is hardly defending the US consitution.

   According to [3] Trump is the only president who has been impeached twice

   "The Constitution does not limit the number of times an individual may be impeached. As of 2022, Donald Trump is the only federal officer to have been impeached more than once. "

   Which surely raises the questions as to how a person who has been impeached is allowed to run for office again?

   Given the republicans control both the house and senate I can't see this happening. But if the legal presidence is there, those members may have no choice.

   References

   1. https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/
   2.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_office_of_the_president_of_the_United_States
   3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

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     Rob van Kan (edgeofeurope@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 17:07:31 JST Rob van Kan

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     @zleap The 14th is not his favourite amendment.

     Section 3

     No person shall ... hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, ... who, ... shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.

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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 17:07:31 JST Paul Sutton

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     • Rob van Kan

     @edgeofeurope

     So in theory he should not even have been allowed to run for office let alone take office, is this the fault of the judicial system taking far too long.

     Surely the trial for inciting insurrection should have taken priority too, rather than the stormy daniels trial. Doing that may have stopped him running for office, while he had the argument that the trial was political, he would be able to argue that before a judge and, of couse present the appropriate evidence.

     I am asking this as if you committed say two crimes, say drove over the speed limit, then got out and shot a police officer dead after stopping you, you would be arrested and put on trial for murder and not for speeding.

     Inciting insurrection that resulted in the deaths of public officers is far more serious than paying off what ever stormy daniels was at the time.

     Such a trial would need to be run the same as any other, not talking about the trial out side the court, an order that has also been violated so many times most people have probably lost count.

     I am guessing he can't just remove or re-write the 14th Amendment.

     Apparently a judge has blocked the birthright thing, as unconsititional which brings me back to his oath of office, where he swore to defend the consititution.