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@jeffcliff why should I trust vaccines and big pharma at all?
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@sally because vaccines protect you from disease, and it's one of the best studied things in medical science???
this is like saying 'why should i trust that when i wash my hands between operations it actually does any good'
because there are pathogens that if we do not protect ourselves from them, we can and will get and spread them. in the modern era, the most likely one is going to be either covid or possibly RSV/flu -- all 3 have vaccinations available to varying degrees of up-to-date-ness
'big pharma' prefers that you be an antivaxxer and you instead of getting vaccinated and protected from covid that you get permanent kidney, heart or other damage, so that you can get put on the medication treadmill.
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> Yes, they're supposed to protect you, but why should I blindly trust a vaccine?
Blind trust isn't necessary. That's why we have vaccine safety trials
> it would make total sense that they tried to achieve that through botched or malicious proprietary drugs and vaccines.
the difference is that it's easier to catch them doing so - Health Canada doing QA on vaccines to ensure contents are what they say, and tracking issues for example. There are safety measures in place, at least here, and so far the antivaxxers haven't gotten rid of them as they are having more success with in the US context
> The food industry is doing the same kind of thing with added sugar,
That is indeed a problem, but a visible one that everyone can see and verify for themselves.
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> because vaccines protect you from disease
Yes, they're supposed to protect you, but why should I blindly trust a vaccine? Big pharma does indeed benefit a ton of people being unhealthy and it would make total sense that they tried to achieve that through botched or malicious proprietary drugs and vaccines.
The food industry is doing the same kind of thing with added sugar, big pharma has as much wealth and influence (if not more) to do the same with meds.
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@sally @jeffcliff when was the last time you've heard of masses of people getting really sick from vaccines, so bad that the vaccine caused worse symptoms than the actual disease it was supposed to protect against
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@condret @sally if you're talking about covid - it doesn't. not by a long shot
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@condret @sally and huh, weird for some reason this popped up in my notifications despite muting you
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@sally @condret if you survive "a few more decades" after getting something like covid
you've done ok
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@condret @jeffcliff
Give it a few more years to decades, they wouldn't make it so obvious to make people go lethally sick from a single or few doses, just like food mafias don't make people die of diabetes too quickly.
It's something that has to be done slowly over time as youth gets older, so clueless people can't connect the dots, triggering cancer on people for one is very easy and can be done without the victim realizing they're being poisoned.
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@condret @sally hrm apparently you weren't muted but this post was for some reason
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@sally @jeffcliff the food industry does not add sugar with the intend to cause diabetes. They don't care, as long as people buy from them and they can cut costs.
the pharma industry doesn't need to make people sick, as viruses on their own mutate over time. That necessitates the need for new vaccines, which keeps their business profitable and running. There are problems with that industry, such as that many drugs are overpriced, given their cost of production. "Vaccines are designed to make you sick" is not a problem, because it isn't real
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