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   Ludovic Courtès (civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 22:47:24 JST Ludovic Courtès

   Meet #Guix at #FOSDEM!
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     Julius Schwartzenberg (jschwart@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 02:16:41 JST Julius Schwartzenberg

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     • Jeroen Baten

     @JeroenBaten @civodul is cadappl actually known and used outside of its home province? This is the first time I encounter it mentioned outside.

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     Jeroen Baten (jeroenbaten@mastodon.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 02:16:42 JST Jeroen Baten

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     @civodul cadappl for the masses! \o/

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     Julius Schwartzenberg (jschwart@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 04:19:44 JST Julius Schwartzenberg

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     • Jeroen Baten

     @JeroenBaten @civodul yep, indeed I know it from there too, but they still license it from the firm of which they split off. And I understand it's also used at one more firm that was spun off from the same parent. So I suspect it would be at just those three companies.

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     Jeroen Baten (jeroenbaten@mastodon.nl)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jan-2025 04:19:46 JST Jeroen Baten

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     • Julius Schwartzenberg

     @jschwart @civodul i know only of one firm in Veldhoven who uses it. But I'm no cadappl expert. NixOS would be another way to implement -like functionality.

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     Ludovic Courtès (civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 07:38:51 JST Ludovic Courtès

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     • Jeroen Baten

     @JeroenBaten What’s cadappl?

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     Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 08:01:56 JST Janneke

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     • Jeroen Baten

     @civodul @JeroenBaten cadappl is a proprietary card-house-of-shell-scripts package manager developed by Philips in the late 80s (or early nineties?) for use by CAD APPLication users. If I remember correctly.

     Its main feature is the ability to create ephemeral (? or at least parallel) environments with specific versions of applications by using symlinks to the NFS share so that a developer could use specific and (many) different versions of softwares for different projects and share it with co-workers. Something that wasn't supported by pkg (and neither by successors like dpkg or rpm).

     It has been inherited by several companies in the Eindhoven region that were formerly Philips such as ASML and NXP and use has spread beyond the CAD domain. Chances are none of them will never get rid of it.

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     Ludovic Courtès (civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 19:39:38 JST Ludovic Courtès

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     • Jeroen Baten

     @janneke @JeroenBaten Interesting! Sounds similar to Stow, which was from about the same period no? Or to “environment modules” (still widely used in HPC), which dates back to the mid-1990s.

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     Janneke (janneke@todon.nl)'s status on Thursday, 23-Jan-2025 21:02:07 JST Janneke

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     • Jeroen Baten

     @civodul @JeroenBaten Yes indeed.