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   b9AcE (b9ace@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:15:21 JST b9AcE

   Whatever could this gesture mean..?

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     b9AcE (b9ace@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:15:19 JST b9AcE

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     If anyone needed it spelled out, here's the Guardian to the rescue:
     "Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally"
     https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/20/trump-elon-musk-salute

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     b9AcE (b9ace@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:15:20 JST b9AcE

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     You wouldn't believe what happened next...
     ...well, probably you would.

     Paul Sutton repeated this.
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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:18:14 JST Paul Sutton

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     @b9AcE

     Yes, looked very much like a Nazi salute, Musk is not even elected, I hope the UK and EU take action ASAP, between the right wing press and now right wing social media run by the far right. We are in for a very dangerous few years.

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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:29:29 JST Paul Sutton

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     @b9AcE
     Get off meta too

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     b9AcE (b9ace@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:29:30 JST b9AcE

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     • Paul Sutton

     @zleap At the very least any "public institutions" (i.e. State, county, municipality, tax-funded organizations, etc) should remove their accounts on Elon's hate-disinformation amplification platform..
     That should then reasonably remove the interest for news-media and then as a consequence also corporations to be there too, so decrease Elon's personal propaganda power and profiteering.
     I say "should", which unfortunately these days means... eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ probably nothing. :-/

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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:47:42 JST Paul Sutton

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     @b9AcE FJust by being there, he is with Trump and Musk et al.

     I do get your point, Where do we draw the line.

     He was at the inauguration, he made that choice, I think universities are already leaving over misinformation.

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     b9AcE (b9ace@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 07:47:43 JST b9AcE

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     • Paul Sutton

     @zleap Well, yes, of course I agree since I never got farther than their Terms of Service the week of initial launch before I decided "that's unacceptable" and then never ever intentionally clicked a link to there again.
     Buuut, I think Zuck's got to do something more than abolish diversity, go to the inauguration and end moderation for it to be enough for a full break for them. The ending of moderation could result in an eventual EU-ban for hate-speech violations I suppose, but probably only after a process of over a year. Maybe. I don't know.
     *sigh*

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     Paul Sutton (zleap@qoto.org)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 15:45:56 JST Paul Sutton

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     My personaljournal.ca/paulsutton site is down at the moment, I have contacted the admin for help, from time to time this happens, (badly behaved services not restarting) On that I have put a link to the article about UK universities leaving.

     All we can do I guess is try and contact insitutions to ask why they are still on X & fb/insta (meta) given what is happening,l and suggest they leave, misinformation is one thing, but the rhetoric against equality, is a different level.

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     b9AcE (b9ace@todon.eu)'s status on Tuesday, 21-Jan-2025 15:45:58 JST b9AcE

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     • Paul Sutton

     @zleap Yeah. I already drew MY line in September 2006, so I think my lines are different from theirs. ;-D
     In that case, if they'd decide to take a reasonable stance and drop FB/Meta, there are https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-inauguration-billionaires-ceos-ambani-zuckerberg-bezos-attend-church-2025-01-20/ more to drop.
     Unfortunately I just can't do it.
     Because I already did.