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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 22:45:04 JST 翠星石

   • Lily
   @ame For your own freedoms sake, just use Mumble instead of absolutely any proprietary malware a proprietary malware master throws onto the ground for you to gobble up like a dog.
   
   If you want to do videoconferencing, Galène works and is free software; https://galene.org/
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 22:59:31 JST 翠星石

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     • Lily
     • G. Gibson
     @mistergibson @ame Element desktop is proprietary software, as it uses electron and electron contains proprietary software.
     
     As for the other clients, the licensing is highly suspect.
     
     The official element server is proprietary software.
     
     I believe there are real free software Matrix clients, but that protocol really sucks to be honest.
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     G. Gibson (mistergibson@fe.disroot.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 22:59:33 JST G. Gibson

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     • Lily
     @Suiseiseki @ame I recommend Element for secure chat, voip, video calls
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 23:19:56 JST 翠星石

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     • Lily
     • G. Gibson
     @mistergibson @ame GNU/Jihad against "open source" and all other forms of proprietary software!!!!
     
     Just because a protocol is documented doesn't mean that proprietary clients cannot be written.
     
     
     Reviewing the `git clone https://github.com/element-hq/element-web` repo - in the README the license is claimed to be AGPLv3-or-later or GPLv3-or-later or degenerate proprietary license, but when you read the files it says; SPDX-License-Identifier: AGPL-3.0-only OR GPL-3.0-only OR LicenseRef-Element-Commercial
     
     The scripts under scripts/ have no license and the comment in the README states "This software", which could arguably only apply to the compiled form and not the supporting scripts.
     
     yarn.lock lists 1717 dependencies!
     
     Unless each and every one of those dependencies are free software, element is proprietary software.
     
     I haven't yet seen a single free software program written in a substantial amount of JavaScript or TypeScript.
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     G. Gibson (mistergibson@fe.disroot.org)'s status on Monday, 20-Jan-2025 23:19:57 JST G. Gibson

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     • Lily
     @Suiseiseki @ame bullshit -- it is opensource, open standard, and very good