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    Quincy (quincy@chaos.social)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 23:53:54 JST Quincy Quincy
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    • Virginicus

    @Virginicus @futurebird @mildsunrise

    and beware the words "obvious" and "clearly".

    they do not belong in a maths text, ever, in my opinion. and yet I encounter them time and again

    they add nothing but a feeling of inadequacy on part of the reader, in case the statement *isn't* actually obvious or clear.

    In conversation about 6 months ago from chaos.social permalink
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      myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 23:53:52 JST myrmepropagandist myrmepropagandist
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      • Virginicus
      • Gerbrand van Dieyen

      @gerbrand @quincy @Virginicus @mildsunrise

      Often "left as exercise to the reader" means "I have done this problem/proof in the past, so I know it is possible. But I don't feel like doing it right now. I will not more examine *why* I might be avoiding it. It couldn't possibly be that something deep in my being remembers how horrible it was and I am avoiding it as all mathematicians avoid solved problems they know the answer to if its a lot of work (after all isn't that the point of math?)"

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
      Rich Felker and Mr. Bill repeated this.
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      Gerbrand van Dieyen (gerbrand@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 23:53:53 JST Gerbrand van Dieyen Gerbrand van Dieyen
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      • myrmepropagandist
      • Alba ?
      • Virginicus

      @quincy @Virginicus @futurebird @mildsunrise "left as exercise to the reader" can be annoying as well

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
      Rich Felker repeated this.
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      myrmepropagandist (futurebird@sauropods.win)'s status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2025 23:54:40 JST myrmepropagandist myrmepropagandist
      in reply to
      • Alba ?
      • Virginicus
      • Gerbrand van Dieyen

      @gerbrand @quincy @Virginicus @mildsunrise

      Basically, the things that get "left as exercise to the reader" are so often awful because it's exactly the kind of picky, exhausting problem that isn't satisfying to do more than once.

      Were it an elegant and breezy problem where everything comes together in a satisfying way the author would write it out just for the joy of doing it again.

      Anyway that's my theory.

      That said the "bad problems" are often where you really find out what you know.

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink

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