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   The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 21:47:15 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

   I continue to dislike the USB-C landscape with a passion. Got my wireless charger but it (of course) doesn't come with a charging plug. Using the only USB-C chargers I have (20W) fails to work. In the small print (not on the product description when I bought it), it says they "recommend" a 30W charging adapter. Plug it into my PC (100W+), it works. So it's mandatory not recommended. How can one "standard" have so many fecking variations 🙄

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 21:50:15 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     I already have a ton of USB-C cables that are all different from each other in terms of capability, and you just have to "know" which one works with which device. If it's written on the cable, I sure as hell can't read it without a magnifying glass. The consortium really designed a stinker with this one, horrible ports to clean, varying standards for cables and power, it's just a mess

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     🎀Tap-Tap The Princess 👑 (thezeldazone@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 21:54:32 JST 🎀Tap-Tap The Princess 👑

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     @sinbad USB C's rollout was too slow IMO and for too long it was treated as something that could have identical specs to USB Micro for $30 for a 6' cable.

     I try to only buy Anker products and keep and eye on wattages, try to keep things 100w when I can. Wireless charging is even worse, I splurged for the wireless charger version of the kindle paperwhite (mostly the fancy color and case tbh). The wireless charger isn't even Qi or anything, only charges the kindle...and uses a unique power supply

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 21:54:32 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     • 🎀Tap-Tap The Princess 👑

     @TheZeldaZone It's so much worse to have something that looks like a standard but is wildly non-interoperable in invisible ways. Would have been better to have different shaped connectors, each of which was 100% standard in every way

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     Claire Blackshaw (kimau@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:34:37 JST Claire Blackshaw

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     @sinbad good news the spec was just updated big announcement at CES to take labelling on the box and cabling to get certified

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     Leandro (Cerberus1746) (cerberus1746@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:57:24 JST Leandro (Cerberus1746)

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     @sinbad Not to mention thunderbolt that even the cables themselves are not compatible with regular USB-C cables.

     But that one we can blame on Intel, and funnily enough, Apple. And that was even earlier from when they had to put USB-C everywhere. So we can all say that everyone contributed with this mess.

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 23:04:59 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     • Claire Blackshaw

     @kimau I just hope the labelling on the cables is actually readable with 50 year old eyes

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     Kojack 🦎 (kojack@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 23:11:17 JST Kojack 🦎

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     @sinbad When I bought a few USB-C cables recently, I used my label maker to add tags to each of them saying the spec and power rating. For example I got a 3.2 Gen 1 5A 100W PD cable and a 3.2 Gen 2 3A cable.

     The Raspberry Pi is a fun case, the recent ones need power ratings that many USB chargers don't supply. The Pi 4 needs USB-C 5V 3A. The Pi 5 needs 5V 5A. So my 2A Oculus headset charger isn't enough for a stable Pi 4, let alone a Pi 5.

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     The Seven Voyages Of Steve (sinbad@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 01:06:52 JST The Seven Voyages Of Steve

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     • Erin 💽✨

     @erincandescent Yeah my problem charger wise is I haven't bought a laptop since 2013 and so I haven't needed anything more powerful than 20W. I have USB C cables from things like cheap Bluetooth headphones which are power-only, and ones from controllers which are data-only. They look identical

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     Erin 💽✨ (erincandescent@akko.erincandescent.net)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 01:06:53 JST Erin 💽✨

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     @sinbad My general rule with USB-C cables is “Is it flexible? -> Its USB 2 only” / “Is it fairly rigid? -> It’s a USB 3 capable cable of some form”

     Honestly when split that way (and I only have a handful of devices which need USB 3 cables) I don’t tend to have many compatibility issues.

     As for chargers… thanks to several years of working for tech companies which like MacBooks, I have a plethora of 65W Apple USB-C chargers which can handle basically everything except the most demanding laptops.