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   SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 21:44:21 JST SuperDicq

   The presence of ethically questionable companies worth millions or even billions of euros like Google, Red Hat, Oracle, Mozilla, Element, Canonical and many many more was always there at FOSDEM.
   
   If you have a problem with Jack Dorsey's new Block company you should ask yourself the question, why is this any different?
   
   To me this seems just like another drop in the bucket.
   
   Remember that FOSDEM is not a free software convention, it has "open source" in the name. The organizers do not care about software freedom. It has always been like this.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:14:00 JST SuperDicq

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     I never visit Fosdem because I like their ethics or anything like that.
     
     My main reason for visiting Fosdem for me is just to meet people and socialize. Most of my fedi timeline is going there so I just wanna chill and maybe watch some interesting talk here and there.
     
     Personally I would love to have an actual free software conference similar to LibrePlanet in Europe.
     
     Yeah, instead of protesting at Fosdem (which is never going to be good, due to being organized by open source), I think our time would be much better spent much better organizing an actual free software conference.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:19:32 JST SuperDicq

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     • Merovius

     @Merovius@chaos.social @rick@a.n0id.space Funny story actually.
     
     FOSDEM used to be called OSDEM before 2002.
     
     The F only got added to it because Richard Stallman asked for it, the organizers do not actually care that much.

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     Merovius (merovius@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:19:34 JST Merovius

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     • rick

     @SuperDicq @rick Uhm.
     It's FOSDEM, not OSDEM.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:20:47 JST SuperDicq

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     • Johann150

     @Johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu F in FOSDEM stands for "Richard Stallman had asked us to add the F back in 2002 but we don't actually care about that anymore because we're open source"

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     johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu's status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:20:48 JST Johann150

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     @SuperDicq@minidisc.tokyoRemember that FOSDEM is not a free software convention, it has "open source" in the name. The organizers do not care about software freedom. It has always been like this.I guess the F in FOSDEM stands for nothing then and this section from "What is FOSDEM?" on their webpage is wrong about itself- to promote the development and benefits of free software and open source solutions.I think the companies you named have developers working on free and/or open source software. Some more, some less. So it makes sense for them to be there, eh?
     
     I don't know how Jack Dorsey fits into this picture, and tbh I'm probably not going to discuss my personal opinion, at least not now and here.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:23:44 JST SuperDicq

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     • Johann150

     @Johann150@genau.qwertqwefsday.eu I don't know how Jack Dorsey fits into this pictureI'm certain that both of Jack Dorsey's founded companies Bluesky and Block develop open source (but most likely not free) software.

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:28:10 JST SuperDicq

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     • Bi—zaar

     @XavCC@todon.eu Offdem was a protest too. It was by definition reactionary, it's not the same as organizing your own conference independently of the other one existing.

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     Bi—zaar (xavcc@todon.eu)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:28:11 JST Bi—zaar

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     @SuperDicq
     What about offdem.net ?

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:30:06 JST SuperDicq

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     • Bi—zaar

     @XavCC@todon.eu Like just don't use a derivative name and don't do it in the same city and at the same time as the other time? Be your own thing.

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     :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 (bonifartius@qoto.org)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:38:07 JST :gnu:+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄

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     @SuperDicq
     > Personally I would love to have an actual free software conference similar to LibrePlanet in Europe.

     would indeed be great, yes.

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     MortSinyx (cnx@awkward.place)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 22:58:51 JST MortSinyx

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     A wee off-topic, but @SuperDicq, what did Element do to be viewed as ethically questionable?

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     SuperDicq (superdicq@minidisc.tokyo)'s status on Friday, 17-Jan-2025 23:20:06 JST SuperDicq

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     • MortSinyx

     @cnx@awkward.place Everything Element makes is proprietary. I mean yes they do contribute to and maintain Matrix stuff, but their own products are proprietary like their "Synapse Pro" server software and the Element desktop client that uses Electron.

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     ✿ xX_Аня_Xx ✿ (fence@xyzzy.link)'s status on Saturday, 18-Jan-2025 01:24:54 JST ✿ xX_Аня_Xx ✿

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     • Johann150
     @Johann150 @SuperDicq
     > The F (of FOSDEM) was added at the request of Richard Stallman.[4]
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