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    she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 12:04:11 JST she hacked you she hacked you

    I have a proposal for a solution of the term "AI"; it is neither intelligent by any definition, and often has humans cultivating data sets

    And even artist talking about it are forced to talk bout it in the terms as it if is "AI" which benefits them anytime you even engage in discussion

    I think a far more accurate and useful description is:

    Slop Algorithm

    It is a series of machine learning algorithms not AI, and generates slop, not intelligence

    de nada

    In conversation about 4 months ago from mastodon.social permalink
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      Kevin Dominik Korte (kdkorte@fosstodon.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 14:18:42 JST Kevin Dominik Korte Kevin Dominik Korte
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      @ekis The philosophical discussion behind the term AI is rather fascinating. Until ChatGPT released their toy to the public, AI was explicitly defined as not a simulation of Human Intelligence.

      Maybe AI should be an explicit warning not to let marketing departments and Wall Street bankers take over scientific terms.

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      she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 14:18:42 JST she hacked you she hacked you
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      • Kevin Dominik Korte

      @kdkorte How do we wrestle the words back from the marketers? They have a lot more soft power than us scientists

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 19:36:57 JST she hacked you she hacked you
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      • Uriel Fanelli

      @uriel I don't wear a shirt that says dictionary on it

      How about you define what you think it is, but I will likely laugh at you

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      Uriel Fanelli (uriel@x.keinpfusch.net)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 19:36:59 JST Uriel Fanelli Uriel Fanelli
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      @ekis@mastodon.social define "intelligence", pls.

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      she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 20:16:01 JST she hacked you she hacked you
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      I'm not going to entertain the idea that we did not move the goalposts on what AI is.

      In addition, the backtracking to AGI is just as stupid because it fails to understand the concept general intelligence too

      The conversation begins with everyone agreeing this is marketing hype

      There are interesting applications of all types of machine learning-- but pretending we can create artificial intelligence when we can't understand the animal brain is hubris beyond belief

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 20:23:50 JST she hacked you she hacked you
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      But all big tech will need to do is market the concept enough, so that people accept it as what AI always meant

      Then they can control what it spits out and control what is "intelligent"; right now what these models spit out is often racist

      Who would have known putting in all books into a model would make it racist? I guess anyone who reads, but besides them, who?

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 20:31:43 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Uriel Fanelli

      @uriel @ekis You can search my posts for some attempts, like https://hachyderm.io/@dalias/112980714725349113

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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        Cassandrich (@dalias@hachyderm.io)
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        @falcon@mastodon.falconk.rocks This. 👆 I've casually hypothesized that intelligence/"consciousness" is a mix of information processing, ability to experiment with the environment, and *consequences* - that there is a pain/survival distinction between one course of action and another. Not only do LLMs lack ability to experiment with environment and reason about results. They lack consequences. No matter how awful an instance of them behaves, the model doesn't get deleted.
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      she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 20:32:15 JST she hacked you she hacked you
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      I have used tools like these for a long time, there have been advancements.

      But suggesting these advances have made software capable of creative thought and intent is absurd.

      I doubt anything remotely resembling AI would require computation ability beyond what we have, not just GPUs; but like quantum computers that don't fall apart when they scale

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      she hacked you (ekis@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 21:42:35 JST she hacked you she hacked you
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      Its not just the GPU infrastructure from cryptocurrency, its also the false promises, and things that are always on the horizon if you keep dumping money into it

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 23:39:18 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Uriel Fanelli

      @uriel @ekis You are contributing nothing meaningful to this thread. Fuck off.

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      Uriel Fanelli (uriel@x.keinpfusch.net)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 23:39:20 JST Uriel Fanelli Uriel Fanelli
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      • Rich Felker

      @dalias@hachyderm.io @ekis@mastodon.social

      1) This is not a definition.
      2) That "definition" means nothing meaningful.

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      georgebmillion.com (georgebmillion_com@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2025 01:11:05 JST georgebmillion.com georgebmillion.com
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      @ekis excellent take, the next big thing in processing power... or its achievement.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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