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   Nina Paley (ninapaley@spinster.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 07:24:06 JST Nina Paley
   You would think Conservatives and Liberals could agree on both immigration and abortion policy.
   
   Both should be safe and legal.
   Hosts get to control their borders and say who gets in and who stays out.
   The needs, desires, and boundaries of the host take precedence over the needs of the visitors.
   If someone is turned back at the border, it might be tragic but it's not the host's problem.
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 07:24:05 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     > But a fetus cannot survive without the "host"
     
     I wanna reply "skill issue" but it's not your kinda humour I think. :blobcat-3c:
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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 07:24:06 JST Light

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     @ninapaley But a fetus cannot survive without the "host", so if said "host" caused said fetus to grow in her body voluntarily (say, by having consensual unprotected sex), she has the responsibility not to murder it.

     Yuchen Pei repeated this.
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     Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged) (taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 07:26:13 JST Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

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     The fetus. It should git gud and lrn2survive.
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     Light (light@noc.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 07:26:14 JST Light

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     • Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)

     @taylan @ninapaley Skill issue for whom?