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   ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 00:40:53 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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   What if reactionaries start creating reactionary groups, promoting counter-revolution through speech and literature, or even actively trying to initiate a counter-revolution? Without any use of censorship, centralization of power, or removing their individual freedoms (specifically their freedom to engage in their counter-revolutionary activities), how would counter-revolution be prevented?

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:20:56 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     • Tor Kingdon

     @kingtor

     Then how would a counter-revolution be stopped without denying people the freedom to promote and engage in counter-revolutionary actions?

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     Tor Kingdon (kingtor@urbanists.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:20:58 JST Tor Kingdon

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     @Radical_EgoCom trying to crush a revolution (counter- or not) by denying rights is like trying to kill a fish by drowning it.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:33:28 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     • Tor Kingdon

     @kingtor

     That's not an answer to my question.

     How would a counter-revolution (in a post-capitalist society) be stopped without denying people the freedom to promote and engage in counter-revolutionary actions?

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     Tor Kingdon (kingtor@urbanists.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:33:29 JST Tor Kingdon

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     @Radical_EgoCom if socialism is truly what the people want, the counter-revolution can talk all it wants and never get enough support to succeed. Any political system that relies on suppressing alternate ideas is destined to become a police state regardless of how antithetical that is to the ideals that system espouses. One can argue this is why the United States is so rife for the pendulum swings we see in party power dynamics: roughly half the voters are told their opinions are invalid

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 03:03:38 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     • Tor Kingdon

     @kingtor

     If there are enough people to succeed in a counter-revolution, how would it be stopped without restricting reactionaries freedoms of speech and assembly?

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     Tor Kingdon (kingtor@urbanists.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 03:03:39 JST Tor Kingdon

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     @Radical_EgoCom I did answer that question. If there aren't enough people to succeed in that counter-revolution, doesn't that stop it?

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 03:43:08 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     • Tor Kingdon

     @kingtor

     To answer your question, yes, if there aren't enough reactionaries, then a counter-revolution obviously couldn't happen, but the nature of my question is based within a scenario where there are enough reactionaries to have a counter-revolution.