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   Dave Rahardja (drahardja@sfba.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jan-2025 13:23:27 JST Dave Rahardja

   #Zuckerberg on #JoeRogan’s show (no link because #FuckZuck, find the clip yourself):

   “Probably in 2025, Meta, as well as other companies, will have an AI that can effectively be a mid-level engineer that you have at your company that can write code. In the beginning that will be very expensive to run, then at some point a lot of the code we have in our apps will be built by AI engineers instead of people engineers. In my opinion that will augment the people working on it. My view is that in the future people will be so much more creative and freed up to do crazy things.”

   I state again: to most capitalists pouring money into #AI, THE CORE VALUE PROPOSITION FOR AI IS DISPLACEMENT OF HUMAN LABOR. What capitalists want are slaves that replace workers.

   Robots have replaced a lot of *repetitive* human work, and capitalists have hoarded all the profits from their increased productivity. Now they want AI to replace *intelligent* human work, and capitalists want to hoard those profits too.

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     Dave Rahardja (drahardja@sfba.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jan-2025 13:23:26 JST Dave Rahardja

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     Software engineers: CAPITAL IS NOT YOUR FRIEND. You are not a billionaire; you are a worker. Rich investors are trying to take your livelihood away any way they can to keep more money in their pockets. Don’t be smug because you make more money than the median; your worth is smaller than a rounding error on any given billionaire’s spreadsheet.

     I repeat: YOU ARE A WORKER. Stand with your fellow workers AGAINST capital. Capitalists and billionaires make life worse for others. They’ve been coming after other workers; and now they’re coming after YOU.

     #workers #softwareEngineering #solidarity #unionize

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     Dave Rahardja (drahardja@sfba.social)'s status on Sunday, 12-Jan-2025 13:23:27 JST Dave Rahardja

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     Can Zuck actually pull this off in 2025? Probably not. But that’s not going to stop him from laying off engineers again this year, and forcing the remainder to rely on #AI to get work done that their ex-colleagues would have helped with. AI is still going to suck, but Zuck is going to force it to “work”.

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 03:41:53 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     I wonder if they even understand capitalism
     
     all profit in capitalism is obtained by exploiting human labor
     
     machines and automation don't make profit: they end up priced at around the value they provide over their lifetime.
     
     machines and automation help make profit when they increase productivity of human laborers, so as to increase the extracted value
     
     replacing human labor entirely will be the end of profit, and the end of capitalism
     
     but capitalists can't help it, can they?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 13-Jan-2025 21:43:03 JST 翠星石

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)
     @lxo @drahardja Useful human labor is not going to be replaced any time soon, considering that current artificial stupidity is only useful for fraud.
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     Chucho :artix: (jrballesteros05@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 02:26:20 JST Chucho :artix:

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     • Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

     @lxo @drahardja I heard from someone who said "Imagine everything is automated and you achieved to replace all human labour, who is going to buy your products if nobody is able to work and get money?"

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2025 08:40:34 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     • 翠星石
     true, it won't be replaced any time soon, but that's not the point I'm trying to make, namely, that their wet dream is self-defeating.
     
     but then, other thinkers have already pointed out that the wet dream is not real, but those in the know just want to make it seem like they're willing to fire all human workers, so that human workers will be even more easily exploited.
     
     but this won't stop many a dumb capitalist from actually embarking in this wet dream and finding out the hard way that it's not as desirable as it seemed
     
     @drahardja right, but then it's not capitalism
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