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   Magnus Manske (magnusmanske@wikis.world)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 21:28:34 JST Magnus Manske

   Would it be legal to use this set of ISBNs on Toolforge/Wikidata? Not sure how they got it, but IIRC IDs and names are not copyrightable?

   https://annas-archive.org/blog/all-isbns.html

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 21:28:32 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @magnusmanske Usual issue... https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Database_Rights

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     Magnus Manske (magnusmanske@wikis.world)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 21:28:33 JST Magnus Manske

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     As with all copyright "is it legal" questions, the answer is probably "no" because shareholder value...

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 23:23:01 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @magnusmanske Maybe. If Anna's DB is "original enough" (in DB rights sense, which is not the same as copyright law threshold of originality) then Anna would own DB rights on it. I imagine at some point ISBNdb https://isbndb.com/blog/isbn-lookup/ or someone else will come forward and claim actually Anna's DB is theirs, whether true or not?

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     Magnus Manske (magnusmanske@wikis.world)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 23:23:02 JST Magnus Manske

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis
     Probably, though Anna won't mind, and the source databases have been amalgamated so maybe dB copyright doesn't apply?

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 02:02:59 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     @raffaele Dammit, we can never have nice things like your repo. :(

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     raffaele (raffaele@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 02:03:00 JST raffaele

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis @magnusmanske I think ISBNdb already claimed
     and got it removed
     https://annas-archive.org/datasets
     https://github.com/atomotic/isbndb-sqlite

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 02:12:57 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     • raffaele

     @raffaele BTW I don't remember what your repository contained but the DMCA notice is obviously bogus. There's no international copyright on a list of titles and ISBN codes. A DMCA counternotice ought to succeed, but better leave that task to someone with deeper pockets residing in the USA.

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     Nemo_bis 🌈 (nemobis@mamot.fr)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 17:53:11 JST Nemo_bis 🌈

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     • raffaele

     @raffaele Right, so it's one of those supposed "contributory infringement" notices. Very sketchy, but unfortunately so common I wouldn't bet on a counternotice to suffice.

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     raffaele (raffaele@digipres.club)'s status on Saturday, 11-Jan-2025 17:53:12 JST raffaele

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     • Nemo_bis 🌈

     @nemobis It was just a stupid script to load the json dump into SQLite https://gist.github.com/atomotic/983feb36dc6c9e03c0ee9a0c432c7420
     no data was saved into the repo, just a link to annas-archive torrent