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    Bruce Perens K6BP (bruceperens_k6bp@mastodon.radio)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 09:20:55 JST Bruce Perens K6BP Bruce Perens K6BP

    I just checked out an end-fed antenna for portable low-power HF ham radio. It has no counterpoise, the instructions don't even talk about a counterpoise, and the designer warns that if you use a "ground grid" you may detune the antenna!

    I looked at another brand, and it's the same. That one is sold by DX Engineering.

    Electrically, there _must_ be a counterpoise. What is it with these antennas? It's the shield of your feed-line, your radio, everything connected to your radio, and you.

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      Bruce Perens K6BP (bruceperens_k6bp@mastodon.radio)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 09:22:54 JST Bruce Perens K6BP Bruce Perens K6BP
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      ,,,
      This is going to cause RF feedback when you go to run digital modes with their low-voltage audio input. And it won't work as efficiently as it could.

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      ftg (ftg@mastodon.radio)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 14:09:58 JST ftg ftg
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      @BrucePerens_K6BP
      Most use the coax feeding it, as apparently 0.05 wavelengths is optimal (according to some simulations I cannot make google find right now), so doing it with the coax feedline is easy.
      The end-feds people build here in Finland all seem to include a ferrite choke in the feedline a slight distance from the antenna impedance transformer.

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      Bruce Perens K6BP (bruceperens_k6bp@mastodon.radio)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 15:17:52 JST Bruce Perens K6BP Bruce Perens K6BP
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      • ftg

      @ftg - This fellow has done a credible study: https://www.aa5tb.com/efha.html
      and he has references at the end.

      Apparently 0.05 wavelength is the length necessary to provide the correct impedance. I believe that their impedance is correct and their SWR is sufficiently low, but I bet the radiation resistance is horrible.

      Like those small loop antennas that are really only 5% efficient, you can still work the world.

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        The End Fed Half Wave Antenna explained by AA5TB.
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      ftg (ftg@mastodon.radio)'s status on Friday, 10-Jan-2025 07:35:17 JST ftg ftg
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      @BrucePerens_K6BP
      Could be that.
      And with the small loops the selectivity and ease of nulling out local interference also helps.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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