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   iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 01:29:39 JST iced depresso

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   • divVerent
   @divVerent @threalist @nickgillespie i think you should only do these two things with tariffs
   
   - mirror whatever they are doing to you
   - correct for regulatory imbalances
   
   the first is only fair and the second is necessary. you can't grind everyone in to the dust with ecological regulations and employee socialism, then let finance export all the jobs to another country where the regulations are "nothing" and just re-import the cheaper goods.
   
   protectionism is a fuck and those companies should win out on the market. the problems the state creates are the only problems the state should be fixing here. :gutkato_malprofito:
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     divVerent (divverent@blob.cat)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 01:29:42 JST divVerent

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     @threalist @nickgillespie Sure, they are a tool.

     But just like a hammer, they can’t be used for everything.

     A tariff against China for things the US doesn’t even produce won’t help the US at all. It’s really just a tax on people who want these products.

     A tariff against specific products from outside where local competition exists however is a way to help the local manufacturers.

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     🌲-alist (threalist@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 09-Jan-2025 01:29:45 JST 🌲-alist
     I understand the argument against tariffs, and I agree in the vacuum of economic theory, but the reality is that tariffs are used as a tool and a weapon by every country, and I find it naive at best to expect the United States to abstain while everyone else maximizes tariffs to their advantage.