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   John Francis (johnefrancis@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 04:20:40 JST John Francis

   Trudeau mentions the failure of electoral reform. Claiming they had no support from other parties, which is... a lie or omission... since the NDP has long supported electoral reform. The LPC wouldn't even acknowledge the report. They ran on it and won a majority. That's all the support needed.

   I've always understood the opposition to electoral reform comes from within the LPC, and nothing has changed that today.

   #cdnpoli

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     Marielle Quinton (mariellequinton@ottawa.place)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 07:02:06 JST Marielle Quinton

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     • Andrew Dunham
     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire @andrew @johnefrancis We'll never get anywhere if everyone refuses any reform that isn't their preferred reform. I think we have to think about reform as a long, iterative process. It won't be perfect initially. Or ever, just (hopefully) small improvements that lead to an increasingly better system.

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     M. Grégoire (mpjgregoire@cosocial.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 07:02:07 JST M. Grégoire

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     • Andrew Dunham
     • Marielle Quinton

     @mariellequinton @andrew @johnefrancis
     The PM didn't say [this morning that] he supported #ElectoralReform ; he supported a particular type of electoral reform, #RankedChoiceBallots . But there was no multi-party support for that system, and he was right that it shouldn't have been implemented in the absence of such support.

     #CanPol #cdnpoli

     Bob Jonkman repeated this.
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     Marielle Quinton (mariellequinton@ottawa.place)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 07:02:08 JST Marielle Quinton

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     • Andrew Dunham

     @andrew @johnefrancis Oh, I'm not giving him a pass, I just thought they'd dropped it because he lost interest in it. If he hadn't and it was internal fighting... He'll probably write about it in his book 😝 but he really should have brought it back after a little while. Let it cool down for a bit, ok. Then go back and really work at it.

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     Marielle Quinton (mariellequinton@ottawa.place)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 07:02:09 JST Marielle Quinton

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     @johnefrancis Yeah, I wondered about that. I had assumed he kinda changed his mind after the election, but his comment made me wonder if it was the other liberal MPs that changed their minds and he gave up fighting them.

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     Andrew Dunham (andrew@ottawa.place)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 07:02:09 JST Andrew Dunham

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     • Marielle Quinton

     @mariellequinton @johnefrancis Yeah, I'm not impressed with that answer. "We couldn't unilaterally change how the elections work" is a dumb answer when the party won an election, got a majority, and the NDP supported it.

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     Stewart Russell (scruss@xoxo.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 07:03:09 JST Stewart Russell

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     • Andrew Dunham
     • Marielle Quinton
     • M. Grégoire

     @mpjgregoire @mariellequinton @andrew @johnefrancis the 2015 platform said he supported electoral reform, and did not single out one particular type:

     "We are committed to ensuring that 2015 will be the last federal election conducted under the first-past-the-post voting system.

     We will convene an all-party Parliamentary committee to review a wide variety of reforms, such as ranked ballots, proportional representation, mandatory voting, and online voting. ..."

     https://web.archive.org/web/20151006133851/https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/electoral-reform/