SoapDog
After Zuck & Friends recent hatespeech, I guess it is time to put even more efforts into #decentralization
Pity I dislike how expensive and chatty #activitypub protocol is. Maybe it is time for me to get back into some #SecureScuttlebutt #SSB development.
m455
@soapdog i really wanna dig into @VeilidNetwork and maybe see if i can get some fun little chat thing going with something i can find on the @spritely website 😁
miss hangin out with you and your coffee pics on ssb tho!
SoapDog
@m455 I will be more active here on the fedi as well. I miss you and everyone else as well :D If we don't occupy federated and decentralised spaces, we lose them. Expect coffee photos here from tomorrow onwards :D
SoapDog
@m455 @VeilidNetwork @spritely Veilid seems quite interesting but the tech stack doesn't match me. Hope they eventually get more bindings for other stacks.
SoapDog
@enieber it probably is but I don't see what that would achieve to be honest. As in what is the benefit from bridging those networks?
Enieber Cunha
@soapdog maybe its possible connect ssb with activitypub
SoapDog
@m455 I don't really have a preferred stack these days to be honest, I been out of the loop for too long and am trying to get back into it. Saw that Veilid is flavouring Flutter and Python both of which are not for me.
Lua, JS, Racket, and maybe Swift are where I'm more comfy.
m455
@soapdog @VeilidNetwork @spritely awww dang thats ok! whats your preferred stack nowadays? i always loved your lua and racket vibes back in the ssb and gemini posts and shit :D
SoapDog
@m455 Chicken Scheme is sooooo good! If I was using Linux I'd be into it for sure.
As for JS my favourite is using just browser-based stuff. Mithril still my go to for most things these days. I been considering going back to old Enyo just for the kicks.
m455
@soapdog sorry for all the replies lol, im in an okay mood this morning (though my stomach feels funny but i think its cause im hungry lol), but what JS stack do you usually prefer?
browser api-only javascript has been appealing to me the last couple of years, just using whatever works in the browser without going through a whole build and install of some framework or new javascript-based project to write javascript
m455
@soapdog my latest non lisp love has been elixir tho!! i reallllly like it.
it looks just like ruby but doesnt use OOP and doesnt let u mutate (which is fun)
it has realy nice destructuring too: https://codeberg.org/m455/blep/src/branch/main/blep.exs#L109
it fit my brain well coming from clojure and racket/scheme where i basically never use mutations like set! etc. and just do it all through parameters and recursion or local/let-esque bindings
m455
@soapdog oof yeah python def isnt me. i cannot do OOP programming, mostly because i havent tried lol, but all the "self", the "this" throws me off, especially with how u need to specify "this"/"self" as a parameter in a object/method definition even tho you arent doing a function call with like function(self, args) lol
i think my favs are fennel (usually with lume.lua pulled it) and chicken scheme (love the static binaries!) and racket (ease of installing libraries and huge batteries included)
SoapDog
@m455 Enyo is dead, been dead for a very long time? maybe even 10 years, I still like it.
m455
@soapdog ouuu didn't know you got into chicken scheme at some point! :DDD
ouu gona have to check out mithril and enyo just because you like it haha
SoapDog
@enieber activity pub is way too chatty as a protocol, the whole pushing data to all contacts makes me scream.
Enieber Cunha
@soapdog use networking descovery of activitypub and use tools to save offline networks with ssb
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