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   AI6YR Ben (ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 02:54:04 JST AI6YR Ben

   • FinchHaven

   @CassandraVert @FinchHaven Every time I see the Puerto Rico grid collapse, I am surprised there hasn't been a wholesale move to complete solar+battery independence there. I believe (taking the long view) that is the ultimate fate of the US power grid under the pressures of climate change, but call me a pessimist. (I do live here in the windy parts of SoCal where they are wholesale shutting off power quite a bit now)

   https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/puerto-rico-power-outage-rcna185849

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     Dr. Eric J. Fielding, PhD (ericfielding@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 02:54:02 JST Dr. Eric J. Fielding, PhD

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     • Yumquotient

     @ai6yr @FinchHaven @Yumquotient @CassandraVert I was looking at satellite images of the area around Sarasota, Florida and they had extensive damage to solar panels in solar farm fields full of panels after Hurricane Milton hit at category 4. I don’t know how panels on residential roofs fared. We have a special radar image analysis method to make damage proxy maps, and areas of greatest damage were mobile home parks and solar farms.

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     FinchHaven (finchhaven@infosec.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 02:54:03 JST FinchHaven

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     • Yumquotient

     @Yumquotient

     "The wind farms that were there were all lost in some of the latest hurricanes (Maria or more recently.) They were a crumpled mess. Can you make solar or wind “weather proof”?"

     A quick search on the extent of this assertion returns the "Institute for Energy Research" which Wikipedia describes as a

     "IER is often described as a front group for the fossil fuel industry.[2][3][4] It was initially formed by Charles Koch, receives donations from many large companies like Exxon, and publishes a stream of reports and position papers opposing any efforts to control greenhouse gasses. "

     I'm out

     You may all argue amongst yourselves from here on

     cc @ai6yr @CassandraVert

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     AI6YR Ben (ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 02:54:03 JST AI6YR Ben

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     • Yumquotient

     @FinchHaven @Yumquotient @CassandraVert Yep, this is how the denier stuff gets out, they plant that kind of stuff someplace and people repeat it.

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     Yumquotient (yumquotient@m.ai6yr.org)'s status on Wednesday, 08-Jan-2025 02:54:04 JST Yumquotient

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     • FinchHaven

     @ai6yr @CassandraVert @FinchHaven In Puerto Rico in the 70’s & 80’s we so often didn’t have power (or water or telephone) it was just routine. Family still there constantly report lacking one or both. (Btw, this is random-regardless of weather.) Now that I live in the states, I’m still pleasantly surprised every day that we have power and water. Many solar panels were lost in the hurricanes. The wind farms that were there were all lost in some of the latest hurricanes (Maria or more recently.) They were a crumpled mess. Can you make solar or wind “weather proof”? So, if you can afford to install them… will they survive…? I wonder.