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   Emil Jacobs - Collectifission (collectifission@greennuclear.online)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 05:19:06 JST Emil Jacobs - Collectifission

   Too funny to not share.

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     Emil Jacobs - Collectifission (collectifission@greennuclear.online)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 06:16:59 JST Emil Jacobs - Collectifission

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     • sbi

     @sbi 28 TWh is a huge amount of electricity. The biggest Germany imported since ... ever? There's a serious shift going on since 2023. There's no need to belittle that point.

     As for the 'cheaper' argument: I find that one truly interesting, because I see there an admittance that, apparently, energy production became uncompetitive in Germany. We were promised "too cheap to meter" renewable energy, but Germany finds itself importing, partly from France, because it's cheaper.

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     sbi (sbi@toot.berlin)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 06:17:05 JST sbi

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     @collectifission And my other statement still applies: Germany mostly only imported because power from abroad was cheaper. There is no technical necessity, it's just the market doing its thing keeping the energy costs low.

     meso repeated this.
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     sbi (sbi@toot.berlin)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 06:17:07 JST sbi

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     @collectifission OK, so I remembered wrong, and Germany was indeed a net importer, not an exporter. I apologize.

     You, however, got it wrong, too: While 28.3TW might indeed sound a lot when compared to an LED bulb's consumption, it's actually only 6% of the electrical energy generated in Germany. And large parts of that was renewable energy from Scandinavia, rather than French NP. (So much, BTW, that Scandinavians got annoyed because their electricity got more expensive due to all the exports.)

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     Emil Jacobs - Collectifission (collectifission@greennuclear.online)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 06:17:08 JST Emil Jacobs - Collectifission

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     • sbi

     @sbi Germany was a huge net importer in 2024...

     https://www.energy-charts.info/charts/import_export_map/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&year=2024&interval=year

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     sbi (sbi@toot.berlin)'s status on Monday, 06-Jan-2025 06:17:10 JST sbi

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     • Charlie Stross

     @collectifission This might be funny, but it's actually wrong. Germany was a net power exporter in 2024, and mostly only bought power when it was cheaper to buy it abroad than to produce it at home. (And with nuclear power, that's never the case.)
     /cc @cstross