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   pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 04:41:31 JST pistolero
   ...And that's nouveau crashing again, at least according to dmesg. Might actually be the video card dying and nouveau just sucks at recovering from weird hardware blips. `chvt` hangs, `rmmod -f` segfaulted(!), I'm calling it. I have another identical card, I *think* this motherboard has some built-in video chipset that I disabled, so prolly I'll go rummaging. I'd blame the thing rattling around in a truck, but since the same error came out of dmesg before I came here, it's probably either "nouveau sucks" or the card is dying. Think I'm just gonna party on the DevTerm a while (thus the posting through the ssh interface, thus the lack of paragraph breaks), I don't feel like rifling through the boxes at the moment.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 05:10:38 JST pistolero

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     @pernia As evidenced by me using a DevTerm to talk to the Plan 9 box to talk to the server on the rack just above the Plan 9 box, the server which I am using to run FSE and transmit this message, barring an actual hardware failure, all of my machines run fine. I have plenty of working computers, but one with a bad video card. The pernia setup, where there are a half-dozen busted machines and no working system (and probably a Windows machine somewhere), is essentially the opposite.
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 05:10:39 JST þernia

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     @p but *i'm* the one with the broken computers...
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     tsoifan1997 (sysrq@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 05:11:08 JST tsoifan1997

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     @pernia @p
     Your computers are clapped and he's still racking up miles.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 05:11:56 JST pistolero

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     @pernia @sysrq I have had really terrible luck but my machines all run.
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 05:11:57 JST þernia

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     @sysrq @p luck of the draw
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:33:51 JST pistolero

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     @pernia You just said you had unplugged hard drives and couldn't save files for 2-4 weeks!
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:33:52 JST þernia

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     @p all the working machines work, and the windows machine has been treated
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     w0rm (w0rm@ryona.agency)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:35:11 JST w0rm

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     @pernia @p @sysrq
     
     Mint is undervalued here, but let’s be honest, you don’t maintain shit, saar.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 07:37:30 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @p @pernia Talking about arm boards, how did you make the image you made boot? (this is the only thing i don't know how to do with arm)
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:11:15 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @pernia Some of them are finicky about partition layouts so I start just using a dd of the first few hundred megs, then fdisk to repair the partition table, usually use the upstream DTBs but I did a build of uboot from a dev branch to get around a bug (and apparently uboot does PXE now and I have been meaning to play with that) so usually I just dump my own uboot in, make a note of the root partition's label and usually reformat it with the same label, then I've got a root and a /boot to put whatever into. It's kinda sloppy but it's fast and results in a working system.
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     :blank: (i@declin.eu)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:32:34 JST :blank:

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     @p @dcc @pernia arm having zero hardware discovery and relying on device trees is a real nightmare, vendors make millions of soc's that are instant dumpster filler because it's impossible to boot anything but the very few boards accidentally upstreamed by an unpaid intern for some sbc for it's single release that's years out of date
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:33:58 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @pernia @i Them's the breaks. Weird time for computing.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:34:06 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @i @pernia @p Its anoying but not imposible, so yea i guess i need to make my own uboot.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:34:42 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @pernia @i uboot is easier to build than you might expect.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 08:36:08 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @p @pernia @i I hope so, also did you ever fix the key repetion on the dev term? do i have to install new firmware onto in?
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:32:41 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @i @pernia Key repetition? The issues I have are, like getting the firmware built. I'm using the first version, which has some mouse issues but because it doesn't try to do the stupid scrollwheel emulation thing, still preferable to the third version.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:38:38 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @p @pernia @i I push m, gives me two m's sometimes. If i push . it stops, i push a second time gives me two .'s
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:39:54 JST pistolero

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     @pernia Every time you say anything, it's like "Oh, I'll have to try that when I fix my other computer" or "I had a Plan 9 VM but I broke it" or something.
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:39:56 JST þernia

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     @p i said my meme folder was on an unplugged hard drive buddy. also i plugged it in and saved the meme a bit ago
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:40:33 JST þernia

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     @p @dcc
     >and apparently uboot does PXE now
     wow that's huge. do share when u get around it
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:41:22 JST pistolero

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     @pernia @dcc Share what? I just tried to boot it once and I had named the kernel wrong and it tried to get a kernel from my tftp server, so apparently it can do that now.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:44:03 JST pistolero

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     @dcc @i @pernia Weird. I've seen some of the keys get sticky, usually you can pop the cap and sand it a little.
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:44:24 JST þernia

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     @i @dcc @p i've been looking at dtb's trying to boot linux on a new sbc i got (thankfully alpine packaged them, the blogs i found from 2022 were bleak)
     
     how does one even make a .dtb file? i that something that vendors have to provide, cuz i haven't found much info on creating one from scratch
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:46:08 JST pistolero

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     @pernia @i @dcc pernis they would kick you out of every IRC room and mailing list for failing to use a search engine: https://lynxbee.com/how-to-compile-dts-to-dtb-from-linux-kernel-and-manually/
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:51:39 JST þernia

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     @p @dcc @i nigger, i don't mean compile the dtb, i know that, i mean write the dts
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:51:51 JST pistolero

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     @pernia @dcc @i How am I supposed to know that you meant a different thing than the thing you said?
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     þernia (pernia@cum.salon)'s status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2025 12:56:45 JST þernia

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     @p @dcc @i i made a typo, mb
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