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    Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 13:35:36 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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    • Diligence Jones

    @DeliaChristina @CrimethInc No doubt they may try, buy the law absolutely does not support their ability to do that.

    The 13th amendment exception for slavery only allows it as punishment when convicted of a crime. Those in deportation camps will be awaiting trial, not convicted, and the immigration violations they're accused of are not crimes.

    In conversation about 6 months ago from hachyderm.io permalink
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      Diligence Jones (deliachristina@sfba.social)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 13:35:37 JST Diligence Jones Diligence Jones
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      • CrimethInc. Ex-Workers

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      Has anyone run an analysis of how much labor camps will cost?

      Because I think the ultimate play here is not necessarily deportation (which can't be done quickly and - to your point - is an economic boondoggle.)

      However, to force the free labor of those who are detained -- basically, to enslave them before Trump deports them -- what's the economic return on that?

      In conversation about 6 months ago permalink
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      CrimethInc. Ex-Workers (crimethinc@todon.eu)'s status on Saturday, 04-Jan-2025 13:35:39 JST CrimethInc. Ex-Workers CrimethInc. Ex-Workers

      Carrying out “the largest deportation operation in American history,” as Trump has explicitly pledged to do, will wreck the US economy. It will deliver no material gains to the vast majority of his supporters, who benefit from the underpaid labor of the undocumented and the resulting cheapness of commodities. From a purely economic perspective, exploiting the labor of the undocumented inside the borders of the United States provides more material advantages to Trump’s supporters than deporting them ever could.

      And by any measure, it’s a waste of resources: deporting a million people in one year will cost eighteen times more than the entire world spends annually on cancer research.

      In other words, mass deportations are a costly luxury indulgence that Trump’s supporters regard as worth the expense because they experience the need for violence so intensely.

      The solution to low wages is solidarity among all workers—employed or unemployed—on both sides of every border against the billionaires who seek to exploit and oppress us. Deporting people is chiefly a form of performative violence intended to channel anger away from those who are the true cause of our suffering.

      https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/mass-deportation

      https://crimethinc.com/sacrificialviolence

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