Grab a Slackware installer, Ubuntu is normie-Linux that Amazon keeps paying to add spyware to. It's gonna be a little unfriendly but it works and is reliable and 99% of the shit people use computers for is in the browser nowadays anyway. Devuan has no systemd and is a little easier to operate but it breaks a little more often than Debian does. I am using Slackware in basically every place that I am not using CRUX; CRUX is better but it does have a learning curve.
> I think we'll all have to distance ourselves from the tech oligarchy in one form or another in the near future
The thing is it's just the San Francisco Data Cartel. Everyone that thought Elon was different is getting their big surprise, but they don't have much of an excuse: he shoved tracking software into exploding cars and replaced the dashboard with an iPad and got his cash by being part of the group that the industry calls the Paypal Mafia (a group that also includes Peter Thiel).
The current model for VC is to spend the other companies into the ground, which is why you used to be able to get food from Grubhub for cheaper than you could if you bought it yourself.
Incidentally, for the record, the reason for all of the extra benefits that Elon and Vivek are complaining they "have to" give US tech workers is shit that they use to keep people on a leash. Google provides free childcare and laundry and a bus to work and whatnot so that you don't have an excuse, and everyone decided to ape that model because someone that quits Google suddenly has to get a new doctor and babysitter and whatnot. They make these job posts that say shit like "$1500 mental healthcare stipend" and they inundate you with email to try to get you to take advantage of it. It was already shitty when you had to sit through a 20-minute speech about their horrible open-office plan and ping-pong table and free coffee but now they want to be your new mom and you are "not a good culture fit" if you tell them you are more interested in the work you'll be doing and your colleagues and your base salary than how many companies you get a gift card for. yc_clusterfuck.png grahambot.jpg
@PraxisOfEvil Venture capital has ruined the industry completely. 100% of those things are VC firms pumping cash into global retardation. All of the good shit happening in software is open-source shit being done in the spare time of people that wish they were using their hard-earned computer science knowledge for something besides spyware at feature factories, made deliberately unfriendly to normies because normies are the ones whose eyeballs are driving the spyware feature factories and decrying all of the "unfriendly" nerd shit. Enjoy your Windows machines. you_just_search_for_linux.png
@p tbf these posts were months ago and I'm starting to come around on Linux, I think we'll all have to distance ourselves from the tech oligarchy in one form or another in the near future
@p Thanks p, you're the man, and yeah it seems people were right about Elon and tech field in general. I'll give Ubuntu a shot, I'm pretty sure Google is spying on me looking at cute anime girls anyway
@veff@PraxisOfEvil@phnt Cunningham's Law: "The best way to get the right answer on the Internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."
@PraxisOfEvil@p Instead of Ubuntu you should probably try Mint Cinnamon instead. You still get the Ubuntu base, meaning that 90% tutorials/stackoverflow questions apply to you, but you get a nice desktop environment with it that is almost the same as Windows.
And yes I'm very much aware, that I just wrote the thing that almost everybody switching from Windows hates.
Before you fully commit to switching, maybe try putting any user-friendly distro on a USB stick and try out the live environment to see if you like it.
@KuteboiCoder@PraxisOfEvil@phnt@veff Well, Cunningham probably said that before then; he is the inventor of the wiki but I think he got that idea from a technical mailing list rather than from running his wiki.
@p I'm willing to try anything new Ubuntu or not, I need to do more research into these things, in 2025 I'm making a concerted effort to break free from the tech oligarchy
@p@PraxisOfEvil I've dual booted for ages and found that as I game less, I spend more time on the Linux partition. I didn't know there was a systemd free slackware release, which is very cool.
@SuhDude@p@PraxisOfEvil But for beginners I would highly recommend against dual booting because it can run into problems quickly. Just run off a live USB until you find a good flavor of distro+de and then install it on a separate hard drive, much fewer problems that way.
@coolboymew@p@PraxisOfEvil@SuhDude all the paradox games i play have native launchers for linux, factorio runs on linux, and proton's list of shit that just works is expanding all the time, so it's barely an inconvenience since i mostly use open source software alternatives as it is cuz they're free
@SuhDude@p@PraxisOfEvil i infrequently game on a linux laptop that has some arch based distro on it, as a complete normie in this shit, it works without much fuss, my main gaming pc is windows, but i'm thinking about leaving more and more.
@EnnaComa@p@PraxisOfEvil@SuhDude@givenup I find Bottles to be better, there's a list of old requirements (like x version of .net) that you can click and actually install from Bottle itself
Lutris has user install scripts however, but I never had to use that
Otherwise, putting the games in Steam and running them with Proton that way actually works too
@Xeraser@PraxisOfEvil Everyone hating on Elon while feeding him and the rest of the cohort. "Oh, I will sacrifice anything for to defeat the people that are destroying this world...except I won't stop using Windows. I need the AAA slop." aaa_game_design_starter_pack.png