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    Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 16:51:03 JST Adrianna Tan Adrianna Tan

    People who say ‘anyone should be able to live / work anywhere / there should be no borders’

    I don’t disagree but

    You’ve clearly never tried to emigrate anywhere and stuff like that feels vapid and useless

    In conversation about 5 months ago from hachyderm.io permalink
    • Joachim, Anna e só and fedel repeated this.
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      Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 16:54:08 JST Adrianna Tan Adrianna Tan
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      The only people who currently have the ability to live / work anywhere with somewhat open borders are global north digital nomads making their homes in the developing world, mostly without following visa or tax laws. Everybody else needs a binder full of papers to even exist

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 16:56:05 JST Adrianna Tan Adrianna Tan
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      It also feels like the ‘thoughts and prayers’ of the broken immigration system. It’s broken everywhere people are trying to move to. By design.

      There are specific ways to improve most of them. You can advocate for immigrants by learning first about precisely how broken they are.

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      anilmc (anilmc@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 22:55:37 JST anilmc anilmc
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      @skinnylatte

      Gotta understand the system and its workings to materially benefit anyone, but epistemologically and rhetorically rejecting migration control (and by extension the state system that underpins it) is still meaningful, to remember that fundamentally these aren't realities but intersubjective delusions we've subordinated ourselves to.

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      fsniper (fsniper@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:43:34 JST fsniper fsniper
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      @skinnylatte perhaps the idea is not just about work places accept digital nomads, but countries to have open borders as such everyone could be able to move anywhere.

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:43:34 JST Adrianna Tan Adrianna Tan
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      • fsniper

      @fsniper I don’t disagree. But that’s not the reality for and it won’t be anywhere close to the reality for black and brown people in the west, who are facing increasing border controls even in places where borders are supposedly open. Like in the EU.

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:45:27 JST Adrianna Tan Adrianna Tan
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      • anilmc

      @anilmc it would feel more valid and real to me if the people doing the rejecting and the activism understood or included people of other backgrounds as well. Right now a lot of it feels very abstract to me. Especially seeing how even in ‘border control free’ EU, border controls are coming back for only some types of people. Of the wrong background and color.

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Adrianna Tan (skinnylatte@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:51:56 JST Adrianna Tan Adrianna Tan
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      • Nathan Lövsund 🐒 🚀
      • Radgryd

      @Radgryd @nlovsund like with everything else about Europe, great if you’re from the system, a different set of rules for others

      https://nltimes.nl/2024/11/11/netherlands-implement-land-border-controls-dec-9

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink

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        Netherlands to implement land border controls from Dec. 9
        The Dutch government announced that new border controls aimed at addressing "irregular migration and human trafficking" will start on December 9. The Marechaussee will conduct these checks for a period of six months, confirmed Asylum Minister Marjolein Faber on Monday.Despite the fact that official asylum figures have fallen sharply in recent months, the Cabinet claimed an influx of asylum seekers prompted the government to enact the measure. Under European Union rules, member states can reintroduce temporary border controls only in urgent or unforeseen situations.
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      Radgryd (radgryd@mstdn.games)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:52:01 JST Radgryd Radgryd
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      • Nathan Lövsund 🐒 🚀

      @nlovsund @skinnylatte I specifically wrote 'are allowed to' (by EU law), of course it always depends on your circumstances.

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink
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      Nathan Lövsund 🐒 🚀 (nlovsund@mastodon.acc.sunet.se)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:52:03 JST Nathan Lövsund 🐒 🚀 Nathan Lövsund 🐒 🚀
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      • Radgryd

      @Radgryd

      *as long as they can afford it. if you are disabled or can't work and no one can support you economically in the country you want to move in, you can't.

      @skinnylatte

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      Radgryd (radgryd@mstdn.games)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:52:07 JST Radgryd Radgryd
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      @skinnylatte Well, other than people in the EU. As much criticism as I've heard over the past 5 years, the fact that people within the European Union are allowed to work and live wherever they want is amazing. 🔥

      In conversation about 5 months ago permalink

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