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   Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 08:03:59 JST Nathan Schneider

   Does anyone else use #emacs mainly in the terminal, even when you don't have to? I just find it cleaner and simpler, and I don't mind using external apps for pdfs and browsing, etc.

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 08:35:42 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • Dekks

     @dekks Thank you for this:) Beautifully practical. I have been using/loving emacs for like 20 years, have written several books with it, etc., but still always feel I am a horribly inadequate user and someday need to actually learn it.

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     Dekks (dekks@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 08:35:43 JST Dekks

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     @ntnsndr

     nothing if your happy with current workflow, now if your requirements change then thats a different matter

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     bignose (bignose@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 11:10:48 JST bignose

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     If it's working for you, there's no need to change. You're using #Emacs whether it's in the text terminal or in a GUI.

     With that said: You're not getting GUI font handling, Emacs access to the range of fonts and sizes, window management and keyboard commands, built-in document and image rendering, pixel-scale sizing of things, etc.

     That's what you're missing; whether you want them is up to you. I would advise spending some time making a good config that shows off the GUI, try it on.

     @ntnsndr

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 11:10:48 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • bignose

     @bignose Sigh, yeah. That's helpful. Because none of those things are why I love using emacs. I love the combo of infinite features with visual minimalism. Whenever I use the GUI it just looks uglier to me.

     But I'm still going to try the GUI more and configure it and see if it can persuade me!

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     Dekks (dekks@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 11:12:11 JST Dekks

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     @ntnsndr

     i get that feeling too, but until 5 or 6 years ago i only used it for org-mode & 1 or 2 minor prog modes.

     there is so much to #emacs that it's easy to feel inadequate but identifying what package would improve your work flow isn't the easiest thing to do.

     it's only in the last year that i've started to use use-package & that was due to one of Prot's videos actually showing me what it actually does.

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 11:12:11 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • Dekks

     @dekks Ooh can you share the video?

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 06:30:00 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • Dekks

     @dekks Wow amazing! I love techie philosophers.

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     Dekks (dekks@social.vivaldi.net)'s status on Saturday, 28-Dec-2024 06:30:01 JST Dekks

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     @ntnsndr

     https://www.youtube.com/@protesilaos/videos

     Prot does great notes for each video, check the links.

     & another great source

     https://www.youtube.com/@SystemCrafters/videos

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:07:25 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • Peter Lutz

     @pjaml @bignose Why terminal:

     - I am in the terminal a lot of the time already (tho I could just do my terminaling within emacs)
     - Integration with system fonts/colors
     - I don't feel the need to use images in emacs but I guess I could
     - Forced simplicity

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     Peter Lutz (pjaml@ecoevo.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 01:07:26 JST Peter Lutz

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     • bignose

     @ntnsndr @bignose I'm curious what specifically bothers you about the GUI... I'd bet you could get a minimal-looking GUI #Emacs pretty easily. Have you tried any themes besides the default? Prot's modus themes are a nice place to start, they're built-in.

     It's really nice to have more fonts and font sizes, and to be able to display images alongside text. I include a lot of images in my personal org notes, I think I'd miss that if I was forced to switch to terminal Emacs.

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     Nathan Schneider (ntnsndr@social.coop)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 05:00:43 JST Nathan Schneider

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     • Peter Lutz

     @pjaml Yes! I'm trying it—my new years project is working through Mastering Emacs

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     Peter Lutz (pjaml@ecoevo.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2024 05:00:44 JST Peter Lutz

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     @ntnsndr I agree with everyone who said it may not be worth switching if terminal Emacs is working for you, sounds like you may not need much of what the GUI version offers. Still, IMO it's worth experimenting. I imagine there might be occasional conflicts with keybindings between your terminal and Emacs. It's also nice knowing that everything can be configured in your init.el. E.g. if you want to turn off scroll bars, you do that in init.el rather than having to also manage terminal settings.