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   Anarchist Quotes (anarchistquotes@todon.eu)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 17:00:19 JST Anarchist Quotes

   Whoever calls himself revolutionary and speaks of dictatorship is only an imbecile or a traitor.
   -- Joseph Dejacque

   #anarchism #quote #bot

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 21:55:14 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     Anyone who hears "dictatorship of the proletariat" and thinks it's counter-revolutionary is ignorant of Marxism and needs to educate themselves.

     #Marxism #Communism #Socialism #DictatorshipoftheProletariat

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 22:06:37 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @TimWardCam @anarchistquotes

     You're choosing ignorance, which is nothing to be proud of.

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     Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE (timwardcam@c.im)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 22:06:38 JST Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes If I heard "dictatorship of the proletariat" I would think "Trots squabbling amongst themselves, BAU for them, none of my business" and I would get on with something else having felt no need at all to educate myself about the various factions of lefties.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 23:23:29 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @TimWardCam @anarchistquotes

     Rephrasing your choice doesn't make it not "choosing ignorance."

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     Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE (timwardcam@c.im)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 23:23:30 JST Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes I choose to prioritise my finite bandwidth for learning things in other directions, that's all.

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     Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE (timwardcam@c.im)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 23:28:12 JST Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes In which case *everybody* "chooses ignorance" about *most* things. Which is a somewhat obvious, and therefore not interesting, observation.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 23:28:12 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     It's more the fact that you're aware of your ignorance of Marxism, have been made aware (by me right now) that your perception of Marxism is incorrect, and are seemingly okay with it, which is different from someone just being ignorant of something.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 23:37:06 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     The fact that you think that the arguments that Marxist have with each other are equivalent to a bunch of people arguing over the names of their groups is proof that you do have a perception of Marxism and that it's blatantly wrong. I don't think you could've shown your ignorance of Marxism any more than trying to compare this video to Marxist infighting, which you very clearly know nothing about.

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     Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE (timwardcam@c.im)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 23:37:07 JST Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes I don't have any perception of Marxism other than that lefties are always squabbling with each other (there was even a film scene about it), which I don't think you can claim is "incorrect" with a straight face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 23:43:55 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     Why the hell are you following a Marxist account that posts almost exclusively about Marxism if you clearly have no interest in Marxism?

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     Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE (timwardcam@c.im)'s status on Thursday, 26-Dec-2024 23:43:56 JST Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes Ah! Meta-squabbling! - Luvverly!!

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 02:10:46 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @FranceskaMann @anarchistquotes

     That's why I blocked Tim. I would've been fine with them arguing against Marxism and having a genuine debate, but they don't even care about what Marxism is actually about, only criticizing it from their position of ignorance.

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     Franceska Mann (franceskamann@freeradical.zone)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 02:10:50 JST Franceska Mann

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes @TimWardCam

     So you're just a guy who hangs out on Marxist threads to shit on Marxists? You are a troll, Tim. Get the fuck out of here.

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     Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE (timwardcam@c.im)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 02:10:51 JST Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE

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     @FranceskaMann @anarchistquotes @Radical_EgoCom I have plenty of other things higher up my list of things to think about. *Nobody* can think about *everything*, there's just too much "everything". And the world wouldn't work as well if we all thought about the same things and we all ignored the same other things.

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     Franceska Mann (franceskamann@freeradical.zone)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 02:10:53 JST Franceska Mann

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     @TimWardCam @anarchistquotes @Radical_EgoCom

     Marxists are thinkers. Mainstream understanding is purposefully ignorant. Choosing not to think is not the flex you think it is, Tim.

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 06:48:10 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     That's not the way I see it. From what I've read of the Soviet Union and Cuba, to use just two examples, the state was truly a class dictatorship of the proletariat.

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     un viejo marginal (m_el_viejo@lile.cl)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 06:48:11 JST un viejo marginal

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes
     el problema es que hasta ahora
     lo único que hemos visto
     ha sido siempre
     solo la dictadura de fulano o zutano

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     Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br) (lxo@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 07:35:33 JST Alexandre Oliva (moving to @lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br)

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     you know what?, "dictatorship of the proletariat" has rubbed me the wrong way for quite a long time
     
     until I took the thought that democracy is the dictatorship of the majority, and that the proletariat are the ultimate majority, which makes dictatorship of the proletariat ultimate democracy
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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 08:11:18 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @M_el_viejo @anarchistquotes

     I would say the Soviet Union as well.

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     un viejo marginal (m_el_viejo@lile.cl)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 08:11:20 JST un viejo marginal

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes
     cuba maybe,

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 08:49:33 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @M_el_viejo

     The period of state capitalism, the NEP (New Economic Policy), only lasted from 1921 to 1928 and only existed to rebuild the Russian economy after the Civil War. After that, Stalin initiated the first of three five-year plans and the transition into socialism. The bureaucratic elite within the Soviet Union also can not be equivocated with a traditional oligarchy, which is a small group of individuals controlling the state, which wasn't the exact case in the Soviet Union.

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     @Radical_EgoCom @anarchistquotes
     NO desde el ascenso de Stalin en adelante
     La definición, marxista😉 , del regimen de la URSS corresponde a capitalismo de estado y eso explica la facilidad con que se convirtió en una oligarquía tradicional😩

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     ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 27-Dec-2024 11:03:23 JST ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭

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     @M_el_viejo

     The Soviet Union had a planned economy, nationalized the means of production, and made extensive efforts to abolish capitalist class structures. It was not a perfect socialist system and experienced many deviations, but it was unequivocally a socialist state committed to socialist goals, and I am viewing this from a Marxist point of view.

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     @Radical_EgoCom
     if you see from a marxist point of view; all the period of the URSS was state capitalism.
     Although we would like to think otherwise,